endwalker seen as low point?

[elzdon]

i was just watching a youtuber and he mentioned endwalker is seen too some as a low point for ff14 but didnt expand on it...any ideas why people think that? im not an endwalker lover or anything but i started ff in shadowbringers so i dont have a history i can use to see why people would think that.

[PredatoryCatgirl]

I don't think anyone who's not trolling and actually knows the game's history actually sees Endwalker as low point. At worst, its coming off as one because it wasn't as good as Shadowbringers. ARR was by far worse, and don't even get me started on 1.0.

[Boblawblah]

Mind linking the youtube video that you were watching?

[Saraide]

Just to name a few: Some people heavily disliked the story, some people heavily dislike the job design, some people heavily dislike the encounter design (not exclusively to endwalker, more a continuation of shb), some people heavily dislike this expansion's relic.

[SassyAssassin]

A streamer said it so it must be true

[NekoMataMata]

I don't think anyone who's not trolling and actually knows the game's history actually sees Endwalker as a low point. At worst, its coming off as one because it wasn't as good as Shadowbringers. ARR was by far worse, and don't even get me started on 1.0.

Something something about bias, something something else whataboutism.

[PredatoryCatgirl]

Something something about bias, something something else about whataboutism.

Endwalker being a low point implies that its the worst expansion. I brought up a worse expansion.

Please, explain how that's whataboutism. I'll wait.

[Enkidoh]

That statement is extremely subjective, but it's mainly just bad blood with how the story was handled (mostly players were upset with how the Ancients/Ascians and Garleans were treated - there was much disappointment Garlemald was only visited after it was already destroyed by it's own hand,

and with the Elpis time loop complicating things and Venat's reasons for the Sundering being actually morally murky, retconning everything that had come before, and that it is impossible not to raise an eyebrow at the rather ludicious concept that everything that is wrong with the universe is simply because a space probe got depressed.

).

There was also a lot of upset players more annoyed with "lack of content" (read: hard end-game content) in the post-launch patch period compared with earlier expansions, and changes they didn't agree with to certain classes and Jobs (SMN, healers etc). My personal take is I still thoroughly enjoyed it even despite a couple of minor gripes (again connected to some very minor odd retcons in the storyline), but I still consider it a fitting finale to the '1.0-begun' storyline.

Everyone's own opinions are unique though so don't listen to what others say and make your own judgement.

[Denishia]

The revisionist history turning positively on Stormblood has been amusing to watch from the sidelines as well.

[NekoMataMata]

Endwalker being a low point implies that its the worst expansion. I brought up a worse expansion.

Please, explain how that's whataboutism. I'll wait.

The title says seen as low point. It doesn't have to be the lowest point, so you bringing up an expansion you consider worse is whataboutism. You trying to deflect and misdefine the idea of what OP meant as a low point doesn't change that. If they wanted to say "the worst expansion" then surely they would have outright said it.