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  1. #181
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    Quote Originally Posted by MaxCarnage View Post
    Unless your point was "whether you like it or not, you need to be told when you're doing something wrong", you didn't make one.
    The point, which I am not sure how you missed it, is that without the safety of anonymity none of you would be offering this kind of advice.
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    Gen X is the forgotten generation. They don't even seem to get their own nickname.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SieyaM View Post
    The point, which I am not sure how you missed it, is that without the safety of anonymity none of you would be offering this kind of advice.
    Except they said, in accordance to your example, they would not shy away from telling someone they are wrong. You failed to get your point across when you offered a ludicrous add on that was easily argued.

    Also, more people need to be told they’re wrong or being dumb. Bring awareness they may not have to their decisions and actions. I’m done cases, a little shame goes a long way as well.
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  4. #184
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    Quote Originally Posted by VictorSpoils View Post
    Gen X is the forgotten generation. They don't even seem to get their own nickname.
    Gen X is just along for the ride

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  5. #185
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kolaina View Post
    Except they said, in accordance to your example, they would not shy away from telling someone they are wrong. You failed to get your point across when you offered a ludicrous add on that was easily argued.

    Also, more people need to be told they’re wrong or being dumb. Bring awareness they may not have to their decisions and actions. I’m done cases, a little shame goes a long way as well.
    You seem to be a little confused, I did not make the example myself. I think they also over estimated some people ability to read beyond the text and realize that in no one is actually going to follow someone, wait for them to stop and then get out of their own vehicle to reprimand someone for something as trivial as turn signal use, especially since there is very real risk of them retaliating in a very real manner that is not forum responses or text chat.
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  6. #186
    Player Kolaina's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by SieyaM View Post
    You seem to be a little confused, I did not make the example myself.
    Yeah my bad. Similar avatar at a quick glance
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  7. #187
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    Quote Originally Posted by GaiusDrakon View Post
    Why is the playerbase so mentally fragile now
    You would know - considering how many posts you do in here crying about not enough different skin colors/diversity, how the game isn't for you, how you're annoyed at anyone and everyone. Seriously, you're the posterboy for this.

    As to your actual question, "Why is this more and more common now?" - confirmation bias: It's not. You believe it is, so you notice every instance that supports your hypothesis and ignore all the cases that do not; and BEFORE you had this hypothesis, when this same sort of thing was happening, you weren't mentally logging it. So it seems there are more cases because you're mentally keyed to notice them now, when it's always been this way, you just didn't notice in the past. Moreover, people used not to be dicks about it. I had parties in HW, SB, etc where I taught people some Job mechanics and often got comms for it. It's not hard, you just have to use your words like an adult, not be a dick, and if possible, do it in non-public chats or without mentioning anyone, so it doesn't seem like you're calling anyone out.

    For example "If you can keep your Damage over Time (DoT) spells up on bosses, it will up your damage on them. Stuff like Dia, Biolysis, Combust, Eukrasia Dosis, Chaos Thrust, Demolish, BLM Thunder 1/3, and so on" (used to be even easier when SMN had DoTs, since it had so many at one point, or when Healers had multiple). This way, you're talking in generalities so no one feels called out - and in turn, a need to either defend themselves or hide in shame.

    This is just basic "How to appeal to people" 101, which sadly, most people don't have since most people now-a-days have the tact of a gorilla wrestling a rino. Don't attack people, be general so you don't seem to be calling out anyone in specific, if possible talk to a person in private instead of public, etc. A short, curt "do this" is kind of dickish and isn't even actionable. "Recitation + Indom"? That's not even great advice since Recitation has a longish CD and it seems like your party's DPS or the Tank's mitigation plan were too low/crap. Most content these days is easy enough Eos could heal it unless your Tank isn't using mitigation and/or your party is garbage tier DPS and your Tank is pulling too big for what they can bring down safely.

    If you're dying due to "the healer", it's more likely the entire rest of the party is failing.
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  8. #188
    Player GaiusDrakon's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Renathras View Post
    You would know - considering how many posts you do in here crying about not enough different skin colors/diversity, how the game isn't for you, how you're annoyed at anyone and everyone. Seriously, you're the posterboy for this.If you're dying due to "the healer", it's more likely the entire rest of the party is failing.
    oh look the gray healer proceeds to blame the rest of the party

    Quote Originally Posted by Renathras View Post
    You would know - considering how many posts you do in here crying about not enough different skin colors/diversity
    lol? you unironically believe titanmen is serious? gods you are certainly special

    as for me when have i ever mentioned anything about not having enough skin colors? lmao
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  9. #189
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    oh look the gray healer proceeds to blame the rest of the party
    RedMage, is that you?
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    We're blaming entire generations for fragility, whats next? Are we going to pull out astrology signs and blame them for FFXIV's playerbase problems too? Shall I pull out the Ouija board so we can find other things to point the blame at too?
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