Why is the playerbase so mentally fragile now

[Carin-Eri]

what is this, a thread fulla edgelords and tryhards.

i've had people like this (and people like the opposite) since the start of 2.0. nothing's changed. you just got a bad hand via roulette.

Well, it may be full of edgelords - but the thread itself is more like a circlesword; all edge, no point.

[GaiusDrakon]

A good half of the "advice" I receive is utter nonsense. The other day I had a tank tell me off for "being a bad healer" in Bardam's Mettle, because they had to use Nebula. Tanks who don't know how to mitigate and blame the healers for their mistakes are very common.

Advice is not toxic, but being a dick is. People who are defending being a dick and calling it "advice" are just outing themselves as jerks.

"waaahhhh y...you... y..you are a jerk! baka!!"

[Kolaina]

A good half of the "advice" I receive is utter nonsense. The other day I had a tank tell me off for "being a bad healer" in Bardam's Mettle, because they had to use Nebula. Tanks who don't know how to mitigate and blame the healers for their mistakes are very common.

Advice is not toxic, but being a dick is. People who are defending being a dick and calling it "advice" are just outing themselves as jerks.

Doesn’t sound like the tank was offering advice. You seem confused to what that poster is referencing. I’ve seen plenty of actually advice be received with a vote dismiss, the advice recipient logging out, someone else responding with “they are fine” or just straight up belligerence.

[MaxCarnage]

A good half of the "advice" I receive is utter nonsense. The other day I had a tank tell me off for "being a bad healer" in Bardam's Mettle, because they had to use Nebula. Tanks who don't know how to mitigate and blame the healers for their mistakes are very common.

Advice is not toxic, but being a dick is. People who are defending being a dick and calling it "advice" are just outing themselves as jerks.

Okay, but how is that advice? It's not.

"You're doing a bad job because I had to use my big CD" is not advice and should not be conflated with advice. It's a MCS tank who has no idea how healing or tanking works.

Most of you guys don't even seem to understand what advice is.

Advice is not saying you're a crap player and need to get good. Advice is telling you how to be better. How to be more optimal.

No one's asking for ultimate level game play in DF. But if you immediately brush off advice without even trying or considering it because you think you know better?

I've had someone try to give me advice "as a former WHM main". And the advice was nonsensical. It happens. But I still did it for that run to appease them and then went right back to not doing it. Because it didn't matter. I wasn't going to sit there and argue with them to fluff my ego.

But I've also had someone tell me I was going to wind up in GM jail for saying "you don't need to LB Nero. With the time it takes and the amount of damage it does, it's better to just attack him" before the Prae rework. So let's not pretend people don't get hostile over nothing and everything is just because the advice giver is a jerk.

[MordecaiGalidonus]

Because if people stopped to type, they would miss a GCD. Then people like would complain that the missed GCD made the fight take 5 seconds longer.

Look, if your time is so precious that playing with people you consider inferior is unacceptable, then stop playing with randoms. Problem solved. Find 7 other people who view this game as a job and play only with them. You'll have a perfect group and never wipe again.

Im obviously talking about in casual content... of course you cant type and play in high end stuff, thats what discord is for. What im pointing out is that nobody really banters in 4man or casual things aside form typical dad humor or "soft" jokes to avoid offending anyone. I love talking s**t with people and enjoy when its dont to me in kind. The problem is you cant that in this game because everyone's skin is as thick as single ply tissue paper. Besides, once in "high end" content you are expected to bring your at most B+ game, so why is it when you have someone who's dead weight I cant call them out for it? If they d like it just leave and find 7 other people who don't mind wasting their time bashing their faces against a wall that cant be cleared until they are 80ilv. over the required amount. When I mess up and people call me out for it I don't get mad at them, only myself, and it makes me wanna do the mechanic all the harder to show I can. A chain is only as strong as the weakest link, and ff14 has alot of "weak" links that refuse to be reforged and made useful.

[Rein_eon_Osborne]

Lmao this thread is gold.

[...]frankly, due to the asinine way in which moderation is handled in this game, it's way harder to know what's permissible than it ever should be. and since the tos says that "forcing a playstyle" is against the rules, that's such a broad concept that most people just go "eh, fuck it" and say nothing or play with their friends exclusively[...]

Precisely what I think.

I kept most of my torrents of $h!tting in my private CWLS consisting only my close friends, and barely speak in public. If I speak anything at all, it's usually out of courtesy like telling them I'm going to answer a call for a min, or because the party just wiped & I know exactly what wipes and how to deal with that. Hell I even remembered that I used to greet every parties with 'hellos' or even the '\o' wave emoji, but I'm slowly forgetting to do that more and more.

Advices only goes out if the person specifically asks for it or made a comment like "Healing X is hard..".

A good half of the "advice" I receive is utter nonsense. The other day I had a tank tell me off for "being a bad healer" in Bardam's Mettle, because they had to use Nebula. Tanks who don't know how to mitigate and blame the healers for their mistakes are very common.

Advice is not toxic, but being a dick is. People who are defending being a dick and calling it "advice" are just outing themselves as jerks.

That sounds more like a $h!ttalk rather than an 'advice', which is entirely a different thing.

[DayHealer]

Everyone is happy and all in the Duty roulette, until you get The Chrysalis and a sprout dps uses Limit break 3 on Nabriales instead of the meteors, and fucking everyone freaking out like the sprout commited a capital offense.

Then the meteor phase comes and is a cakewalk even without LB3.

[Xaruko_Nexume]

Everyone is happy and all in the Duty roulette, until you get The Chrysalis and a sprout dps uses Limit break 3 on Nabriales instead of the meteors, and fucking everyone freaking out like the sprout commited a capital offense.

Then the meteor phase comes and is a cakewalk even without LB3.

Yeah, we survided the meteor without LB3 last week for the first time. Everyone was just like what? We are alive? Lol.

[Ayer2015]

Go up to some random irl and tell them they would be a better driver if they used their signal lights and see how receptive people are with your feedback and help.

[MaxCarnage]

Go up to some random irl and tell them they would be a better driver if they used their signal lights and see how receptive people are with your feedback and help.

What point are you trying to make? Not using your turn signals is not only against the law, but it also endangers yourself and all others who share the road with you.

If someone's putting my life in danger, I'm gonna tell them, and I don't give a single crud how they feel about it.

Oh but nice gotcha, I guess.