Why is the playerbase so mentally fragile now

[MaxCarnage]

Just because you dont see it happen doesnt mean it didnt happen...you know better than this. Or you should. Lay off the personal attacks as well. Calling someone a liar because what they saw conflicts with your own personal views and prejudices is way out of line.

Who are you to tell others what happens on servers you dont play on and have never been to.

Lmao this you?

I have about 15- 20 years in multiplay gaming that says otherwise.

But, believe what you wish.

[VelKallor]

Lmao this you?

Yes.

It is. I started gaming back in the late 80's mate. We're talking PRE DOS 6.22. Ive been in various multiplay games for years. Decades. Why does this come as any surprise?

[Denji]

what is this, a thread fulla edgelords and tryhards.

i've had people like this (and people like the opposite) since the start of 2.0. nothing's changed. you just got a bad hand via roulette.

[Carin-Eri]

what is this, a thread fulla edgelords and tryhards.

i've had people like this (and people like the opposite) since the start of 2.0. nothing's changed. you just got a bad hand via roulette.

Well, it may be full of edgelords - but the thread itself is more like a circlesword; all edge, no point.

[GaiusDrakon]

Paypig squealing? Seriously...
So everyone that doesn't have an issue with certain things and expresses that is a squealing paypig? Yet regardless if me or you is happy with the game...we're BOTH paying at the end of the day. So who really is the paypig? The person paying for a game they enjoy or the person paying for a game they don't?

Let's take it a step further with your logic. If you guy's criticism is being stamped out by so called "squealing paypigs" how weak does that make you and your point look? You lack the basic ability to apply nuance xD
And also to the original point you still very much CAN criticize the game. The forums are proof of this. If you want to be able to do that and have an Echo chamber with zero pushback from "squealing paypigs" band together and make a subreddit or something.

Lmao you think I actually pay for this game

[Kolaina]

A good half of the "advice" I receive is utter nonsense. The other day I had a tank tell me off for "being a bad healer" in Bardam's Mettle, because they had to use Nebula. Tanks who don't know how to mitigate and blame the healers for their mistakes are very common.

Advice is not toxic, but being a dick is. People who are defending being a dick and calling it "advice" are just outing themselves as jerks.

Doesn’t sound like the tank was offering advice. You seem confused to what that poster is referencing. I’ve seen plenty of actually advice be received with a vote dismiss, the advice recipient logging out, someone else responding with “they are fine” or just straight up belligerence.

[MaxCarnage]

A good half of the "advice" I receive is utter nonsense. The other day I had a tank tell me off for "being a bad healer" in Bardam's Mettle, because they had to use Nebula. Tanks who don't know how to mitigate and blame the healers for their mistakes are very common.

Advice is not toxic, but being a dick is. People who are defending being a dick and calling it "advice" are just outing themselves as jerks.

Okay, but how is that advice? It's not.

"You're doing a bad job because I had to use my big CD" is not advice and should not be conflated with advice. It's a MCS tank who has no idea how healing or tanking works.

Most of you guys don't even seem to understand what advice is.

Advice is not saying you're a crap player and need to get good. Advice is telling you how to be better. How to be more optimal.

No one's asking for ultimate level game play in DF. But if you immediately brush off advice without even trying or considering it because you think you know better?

I've had someone try to give me advice "as a former WHM main". And the advice was nonsensical. It happens. But I still did it for that run to appease them and then went right back to not doing it. Because it didn't matter. I wasn't going to sit there and argue with them to fluff my ego.

But I've also had someone tell me I was going to wind up in GM jail for saying "you don't need to LB Nero. With the time it takes and the amount of damage it does, it's better to just attack him" before the Prae rework. So let's not pretend people don't get hostile over nothing and everything is just because the advice giver is a jerk.

[Rein_eon_Osborne]

Lmao this thread is gold.

[...]frankly, due to the asinine way in which moderation is handled in this game, it's way harder to know what's permissible than it ever should be. and since the tos says that "forcing a playstyle" is against the rules, that's such a broad concept that most people just go "eh, fuck it" and say nothing or play with their friends exclusively[...]

Precisely what I think.

I kept most of my torrents of $h!tting in my private CWLS consisting only my close friends, and barely speak in public. If I speak anything at all, it's usually out of courtesy like telling them I'm going to answer a call for a min, or because the party just wiped & I know exactly what wipes and how to deal with that. Hell I even remembered that I used to greet every parties with 'hellos' or even the '\o' wave emoji, but I'm slowly forgetting to do that more and more.

Advices only goes out if the person specifically asks for it or made a comment like "Healing X is hard..".

A good half of the "advice" I receive is utter nonsense. The other day I had a tank tell me off for "being a bad healer" in Bardam's Mettle, because they had to use Nebula. Tanks who don't know how to mitigate and blame the healers for their mistakes are very common.

Advice is not toxic, but being a dick is. People who are defending being a dick and calling it "advice" are just outing themselves as jerks.

That sounds more like a $h!ttalk rather than an 'advice', which is entirely a different thing.

[DayHealer]

Everyone is happy and all in the Duty roulette, until you get The Chrysalis and a sprout dps uses Limit break 3 on Nabriales instead of the meteors, and fucking everyone freaking out like the sprout commited a capital offense.

Then the meteor phase comes and is a cakewalk even without LB3.

[Xaruko_Nexume]

Everyone is happy and all in the Duty roulette, until you get The Chrysalis and a sprout dps uses Limit break 3 on Nabriales instead of the meteors, and fucking everyone freaking out like the sprout commited a capital offense.

Then the meteor phase comes and is a cakewalk even without LB3.

Yeah, we survided the meteor without LB3 last week for the first time. Everyone was just like what? We are alive? Lol.