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  1. #101
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    IkaraGreydancer's Avatar
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    Ikara Graydancer
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    Quote Originally Posted by GaiusDrakon View Post
    Yes they're nuisances and obviously we all want them to get far away from us LOL

    You guys can spend infinite energy coddling someone with clinical social anxiety but I ain't wasting energy or time on that. That's the hard truth lmao no one likes someone who's so mentally fragile they collapse if you say they should've used Cure II instead of Cure III. I'm not a tapdancer and I ain't tiptoeing all over the glass floor.
    Welcome to the block list. I pray my life never gets so miserable that I think clowning on a forum is a good idea. I say right on Yoshi P in this case. We don't need toxic folks such as you having free reign to do n say what you want
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  2. #102
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    Vel Kallor
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    You guys can spend infinite energy coddling someone with clinical social anxiety but I ain't wasting energy or time on that
    If you are incapable, or unable, or unwilling, to express yourself without the use of multiple f words and other obscenities, id say thats a YOU problem.
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  3. #103
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    ZephyrMenodora's Avatar
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    Zephyr Menodora
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    Zalera
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    Quote Originally Posted by IkaraGreydancer View Post
    Welcome to the block list. I pray my life never gets so miserable that I think clowning on a forum is a good idea. I say right on Yoshi P in this case. We don't need toxic folks such as you having free reign to do n say what you want
    Took you long enough lol.
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  4. #104
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    Vel Kallor
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    This game is like the ultimate safe space for people, cant criticize the game
    Hasnt seemed to have stopped you.

    cant criticize the players
    I have offered advice and assistance multiple times and never been reported. Ever stop to think it isnt what you say, but how you say it?

    no official parses
    The reasons for this have been stated thousands of times.

    cant comment on someone's dps or you get banned
    See, if you do that, then you are advertising the fact you are using a parser, which you are NOT PERMITTED to use, additionally, the rule is, was, and always has been that IF you are using one, KEEP YOUR MOUTH SHUT. Dont harass others. Its that easy.

    , it's something of its own really, it can be a bit scary sometimes how triggered people get in this game compared to other games.
    Or maybe its more of a zero tolerance for others inability to keep their tempers and not to scream abuse at people. To which, I agree. Stormpeaks, lemme ask you, would you DARE go off on an expletive laden tirade at someone in public?

    No?

    Then dont do it ingame.

    Simple.
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  5. #105
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    Black Mage Lv 100
    This is why I disabled all interactions in game, tells, and chat disabled.
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  6. #106
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    Corrupted's Avatar
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    Mir Desfel
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    Quote Originally Posted by Boblawblah View Post
    I think a big part of why threads like these get going is people are looking for any excuse to vent their issues. They KNOW the thread is a troll, but who cares if it lets them say what they want to say? I've said it before though, a single moderator that spent 10 hours a week on these forums could wreck titanmen's alt career very quickly, and would shut down 90% of the troll threads in this forum instantly.
    You are right, it doesn't matter what the topic is people will reply just to reply and it doesn't take much to derail the initial idea, not that it matters in most threads like these anyway...
    Guess we figured out which one we're in though, being bored enough to chat through a random troll thread huh.
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  7. #107
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    Semirhage's Avatar
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    I've said it other places and I'll reiterate it here. FFXIV is relatively unique among MMOs in that its community takes smug, passive-aggressive My Way Or The Highway toxic casualism and pretends as if the Mean Girl approach is "nice".
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  8. #108
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    MoofiaBossVal's Avatar
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    Kokoro Liliro
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    Brynhildr
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    Samurai Lv 100
    The game does not facilitate player growth or the formation of friendships. You can have reached level cap and slogged through the 400+ hour long story and have never understood how to play your class or have found a friend.

    Oldschool MMOs were hard. Take Vanilla WoW for instance. The world had packs of dangerous mobs that were very risky to take on by yourself, and it would take a long time to get to wherever you wanted to go, so you didn't want to die, and there could be a considerable monetary loss in repair bills and food and potions and arrows and so on. You could theoretically solo to cap farming easy mobs but it would take a long time, and you would be in the dark without other people sharing information with you. So you really wanted to play in a party with other people. There was no LFR or Duty Roulette to automate grouping for you. So you had to actually talk to other people and form bonds with them over your several hour long play session, be on your best behavior if you wanted people to group up with you again and for you to not get bad reputation on your server. And then you network with more and more people and before you know it, you're forming a big guild. If you didn't already know social etiquette, you would. If you make a mistake, it's okay because you're with friends and they will teach you how to get better.

    Then LFD happened, where players could click a button and then be placed into a group without needing to socialize, for the purpose of doing 15-30 minute long bite sized content that was not difficult, and the stakes were further reduced as repair bills and food and potions and etc weren't expensive anymore. So people could spam dungeon roulette to level up and reach endgame having never formed a bond with other players or learned how to socialize. A mercenary mentality seeped into the game where players started viewing each other as cogs in a machine delaying them from getting their chores done. If someone is new and botches a mechanic, there are no bonds of friendship. Too much of a bother to stop and try to teach him, and those who do take the time to try to teach are often met with explosive outbursts. So it's easier to just kick the "underperformer" and replace them. This then leads to the playerbase becoming increasingly antisocial and the arise of toxicity as the mature oldtimer players are gradually replaced by a new generation.


    Quote Originally Posted by GaiusDrakon View Post
    Got a Scholar who couldn't heal a big pull and we all died. I used quick translation and just said "Recitation + Indom"

    Lo and behold the scholar just went offline right after 2 seconds
    FFXIV is no different with its roulette system, it's just that the player behavior is expressed a little differently due to the draconian chat policies. Rather than a player who botched something being instructed how to play better and exploding, he instead just silently quits.


    Quote Originally Posted by GaiusDrakon View Post
    Pulled a boss right as I saw Viewing Cutscene ended and someone freaked out and just stood there and started typing out an essay in alliance chat, saying I'm ruining someone else's experience. Best part is the sprout didn't even say anything.
    Here, the game design of FFXIV (long cutscenes that can be interrupted by a boss pull) pits two different demographics of players against each other: the MMO audience where you have a group that is trying to minimize total manhours wasted, vs the individualistic mindset of visual novel players who want to go through the story at their own pace. As FFXIV's claim to popular fame is its story, you're naturally going to get a lot of story focused folks who aren't thinking about a MMO player's perspective on timely pulls.
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  9. #109
    Player Shinkuno's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Archeron View Post
    You can swear, while not being toxic, or being a jerk. The extreme over moderation of swearing isn't necessary. A 13 year old is not going to become mentally scarred by seeing **** in chat.
    18+ Venues, Sex Ads and public ERP? "Just let them to what they want it doesnt affect you"

    Someone saying "F*ck"? "How dare you, you agreed to the ToS! Cant you see how this could scar a children for life??" - GCBTW on their way to the next nightclub.
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  10. #110
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    Echo Micacho
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    Raiden
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    Astrologian Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Shinkuno View Post
    18+ Venues, Sex Ads and public ERP? "Just let them to what they want it doesnt affect you"

    Someone saying "F*ck"? "How dare you, you agreed to the ToS! Cant you see how this could scar a children for life??" - GCBTW on their way to the next nightclub.
    All of it is against the ToS if not tolerated by the other side. Someone can report you for offensive jokes, ERP in public chats, "sex ads" and ofc inappropriate language or harassment.

    It's kinda silly that you want to paint it like SE allows public NSFW interactions ingame, this is not the case. It is just private, which is not against the ToS. Or it doesn't get reported.
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