Why is the playerbase so mentally fragile now

[Ranaku]

TLDR : "let me stay bad god damnit, i dont need your advice, i didnt ask for it, i want to stay bad!"

TLDR : I can't imagine people learning without my totally valuable advice which i of course deliver in the most rude and passive aggressive way possible! Why are those dirty snowflake noobs not crawling to my superior mentor feet?!!!

[Kolaina]

This thread has a lot of fragile people

[StarRosie]

I check back in. And I just have the words of a wise, wise man pop into my head. The words of a true visionary. A man so ahead of his time, his words will inspirie people for generations to come.

That man being!

THAT MAN BEING!

Guzma.

[DixieBellOCE]

Calling out somebody for underperforming - Toxic

Just remember, the toxicity only exists because people choose to underperform and drag everyone else down with them.

If you can't take feedback or advice without having a mental breakdown, MMO's most likely are not the right genre for you.

[Striker44]

Calling out somebody for underperforming - Toxic

Just remember, the toxicity only exists because people choose to underperform and drag everyone else down with them.

If you can't take feedback or advice without having a mental breakdown, MMO's most likely are not the right genre for you.

People don't always "choose" to underperform. People newer to the game (or heck, just to a particular class) will likely not perform as well as experienced players. People with disabilities or whose mental or physical acuity has declined can still be playing their very best and yet "underperform."

Personally, I think the direct response to your last sentence is that FFXIV is exactly the proof that you are wrong - it shows a game can be very successful in the MMO genre while cracking down hard on toxicity and insisting its playerbase show basic civility to each other.

I do, however, find it very interesting the kind of people who fall on certain sides of debates like this and also where they fall with FFXIV and EW in general.

[KitingGenbu]

Its really a matter of perspective. Many of the changes that Yoshida decided to go with may have broadened the appeal of the game to a wider audience. So you might come across those types that mainly solo that want to try things out with others and aren't used to wall-to-wall pulls as a healer (even in low-level dungeons) etc.

[Iedarus]

*Flashback to SHB*

Me, a Scholar who died to mob autos and boss autos: "Why am I taking damage?"
The Paladin: "UH IDK WHY DO-(I forgot what was said after this)"
Me: *Gets vote kicked and tells guildmates what happened*
Guild Mates: "Yeah, that's what happens when the tank doesn't know their AOE rotation."

Btw this was a LEVEL 80 DUNGEON.

[Ranaku]

*Flashback to SHB*

Me, a Scholar who died to mob autos and boss autos: "Why am I taking damage?"
The Paladin: "UH IDK WHY DO-(I forgot what was said after this)"
Me: *Gets vote kicked and tells guildmates what happened*
Guild Mates: "Yeah, that's what happens when the tank doesn't know their AOE rotation."

Btw this was a LEVEL 80 DUNGEON.

Had a really hilarious similar experience in Mount Gulg, the paladin tank didn't use aoe at all and was telling us that he is tanking since ARR and you focus one mob down at a time and that is faster than aoe. Meanwhile we had a summoner with us which was just crying in the background cause 99% of his kit is automatically aoe. Had to kick him in the end cause he didn't wanted to listen and the healer would just randomly get aggro cause of their heals...not to speak about the summoner who just spammed ruin.

[Archeron]

If people have the attitude of "You don't pay my sub, You can't tell me how to play my job!" They're entitled to think that, but the second they step into harder content (Savage, EX, ULT.) That attitude needs to go out the window. Especially in learning parties. Though it doesn't happen often I've seen More than a few people who seem to think that other people should carry them, and they should be immune from criticism for their performance which is causing wipes.

People overall just need to accept that criticism and constructive feedback =/= a personal attack.

[Batbrat]

Anyone who doesnt believe that a huge majority in this game are absurdly fragile is absolutely in denial lol. People freak out and act like the biggest victims in the world over the teeniest tiniest things. They genuinely think XIV is their safe space where nothing can ever go wrong and everything should cater to them because they're unique, precious and special-just shatters their immersion right into tiny pieces immediately the moment anybody does anything that they themselves dont like or wouldnt do.

"I'D never pull that much" fantastic Susie-bob, now press your buttons and kill with us. -too easy, they'd rather sit and type about how their way would have been much better, as if they could pass out behind their monitor and any of us would notice or morn about it. Not even hitting anything, could have died right when they loaded in for all we know. Might as well have-initiate that vote kick. Then someone else will wanna be empathetic- "well maybe they're right" now you have TWO idiots talking when you could finishing your content.

All this talk and worship about how Yoshi values our time, but the players load in and salivate just waiting for the next best opportunity to take center stage and waste as many of our time as possible. Main character syndrome swung into full effect. 'everything is about ME!!!!!'. Even if someone makes a mistake. Sometimes the person wasting everyones time is the person in the fetal position crying because someone messed something up. Don't drag it out or get petty, you turn off your screen and look like a chimpanzee in the reflection. Just correct the direct problem at hand with the crucial information and shut up for the rest. Take the rest to therapy or your mommy.