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  1. #21
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    The only reason I'm led to believe this coin will be worth more is the description: "A gold coin minted by the three Grand Companies of Limsa Lominsa, Gridania, and Ul'dah to commemorate the reforming of the Eorzean Alliance. Guaranteed never to depreciate in value!"
    If it's true that the events we're experiencing now will not be in 2.0, then it's likely this coin will not be obtainable either. Therefore I think the Qiqirn (or another npc) may pay more for it at that time.
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    its just to force us getting some seals and buy gc item >.>
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jekyll View Post
    "Guaranteed never to depreciate in value!"

    If it's true that the events we're experiencing now will not be in 2.0, then it's likely this coin will not be obtainable either. Therefore I think the Qiqirn (or another npc) may pay more for it at that time.
    Depreciate in value. Doesn't say anything about it gaining value. Suffice it to say, SE would be shooting themselves in the foot by adding something that is only obtainable once and not telling people it would have future use. I'm fairly certain this coin is simply a means of recovering from the massive seal hit one takes while ranking up to officer. It's just a little flavor detail. You give it to a Qiqirin, and lore-wise they have an obsession with shiny things.

    It's just 25k seals, and I'd be willing to bet those 25k seals that it isn't going to be for anything else in the future.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Endemerrin View Post
    Depreciate in value. Doesn't say anything about it gaining value. Suffice it to say, SE would be shooting themselves in the foot by adding something that is only obtainable once and not telling people it would have future use. I'm fairly certain this coin is simply a means of recovering from the massive seal hit one takes while ranking up to officer. It's just a little flavor detail. You give it to a Qiqirin, and lore-wise they have an obsession with shiny things.


    It's just 25k seals, and I'd be willing to bet those 25k seals that it isn't going to be for anything else in the future.

    Even if it doesn't go up, it won't go down. So what's the harm in waiting for 2.0 just to see? It's all speculation, but again, what's the harm?
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    Last edited by Jekyll; 06-22-2012 at 03:16 PM.

  5. #25
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jekyll View Post
    Even if it doesn't go up, it won't go down. So what's the harm in waiting for 2.0 just to see? It's all speculation, but again, what's the harm?
    None. There is absolutely zero harm. Never said to go cash your coin in, just that I'm fairly certain it's only going to ever be for a 25,000 seal stipend. If you want an item now, I'd say cash it. If not, you can just hang onto it to help with future rank ups.

    Max out your seals, spend them on new ranks, and fill your pool back up with a quick 25k.
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  6. #26
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    What is odd:
    Why use this coin as a mechanism for giving you back 25,000 seals for completing the quest, as opposed to simply giving you 25,000 seals extra as the reward.

    Possible explanation:
    You have 45,000 seals, and apply for promotion, thus giving 25,000 seals leaving you with: 20,000
    You then complete the quest, giving you 5,000 seal reward + 25,000 seal reward (in lieu of coin) = 30,000 seal reward.
    This, plus the original 20,000 you had left would immediately put you at the 50,000 seal cap.

    If, however, in between applying for promotion and completing quest (it may take some a while), you earn seals then you will run into the problem:
    20,000 seals left after applying.
    5,000 seals earned from doing caravans with friends, maybe a side quest or two.
    25,000 seals before finishing quest + 5,000 seal reward + 25,000 seal reward = 55,000 seals, putting you over the 50k cap.

    Having the 25,000 seal reward as a 'coin' that is redeemable would ensure you could get those 25,000 seals when you have 'room' to store 25,000 seals (i.e., when you are at 25,000 or less, as opposed to 30,000 and thus loose out on 5000 seals).

    Therefore I think the logic is this:
    25,000 seals is not the 'cost' for promotion, but simply a requirement to have for promotion. It is 'met' by being withdrawn from you.
    Upon completion, the 25,000 seals are 'returned' to you.
    In order to ensure that you do not exceed the 50k cap, it is returned to you in 'coin' form.

    A side perk: Those who like to collect things can collect this one-in-a-kind once-in-a-lifetime item, and treasure it for years to come as a pretty shiny thing.
    Another side perk: If you re-reach cap at 50k seals, and have coin, you in essence have 75k seals on hand. So if next month the grand company sells a bunch of items you HAVE to have right away that cost a total of 75k, you are set!


    I'm pretty much sure this is all its good for, and it's original intent.
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    Last edited by Asiaine; 06-22-2012 at 04:35 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kerwin View Post
    100k for a crafting II scroll is a little to pricey for me. Hope his prices goes down in the future.
    Now, it is the black market. If you want it cheaper, buy it from your company. 400 seals are not much.
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  8. #28
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jekyll View Post
    The only reason I'm led to believe this coin will be worth more is the description: "A gold coin minted by the three Grand Companies of Limsa Lominsa, Gridania, and Ul'dah to commemorate the reforming of the Eorzean Alliance. Guaranteed never to depreciate in value!"
    If it's true that the events we're experiencing now will not be in 2.0, then it's likely this coin will not be obtainable either. Therefore I think the Qiqirn (or another npc) may pay more for it at that time.

    I'm guessing that the "guaranteed never to depreciate in value!" line is a joke poking fun at the type of commemorative coin/plate/etc. commercials you see on TV. It's possible that the coin might have some use in the future, but I don't think the item description holds any kind of clue.
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    Last edited by Rane; 06-23-2012 at 12:30 PM.

  9. #29
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    Doho Fiasco
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jekyll View Post
    Even if it doesn't go up, it won't go down. So what's the harm in waiting for 2.0 just to see? It's all speculation, but again, what's the harm?
    There is no harm per se. But there is also the possibility that you will never be able to trade it in for 25k seals or anything for that matter, ever again. What's to say that qiqirn doesn't get obliterated when Dalamud hits? *shrug*
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    "Unbelievable wipes... indescribable failings. Whining, bitching, rage quitting - through an endless party find." - Doho, A Whole New Whorl

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sol_Aureus View Post
    I turned mine in. It's unique/untradable with no way of getting this coin other than this quest, if there was something else to use it on I sincerely doubt they'd omit it until later without adding in another way to get the coin in case you did turn it in. Turning in a seemingly useless u/u inventory -1 item for 25k seals seems like the entire point of the item.

    I agree with this, I'm guessing this is a way for SE to introduce the black market NPCs to folks that still don't know about them.

    edit: or what Asiaine said
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    Last edited by Krausus; 06-23-2012 at 12:00 AM.

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