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  1. #1
    Player
    Asiaine's Avatar
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    Shayla Asiaine
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    Balmung
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    Carpenter Lv 50
    What is odd:
    Why use this coin as a mechanism for giving you back 25,000 seals for completing the quest, as opposed to simply giving you 25,000 seals extra as the reward.

    Possible explanation:
    You have 45,000 seals, and apply for promotion, thus giving 25,000 seals leaving you with: 20,000
    You then complete the quest, giving you 5,000 seal reward + 25,000 seal reward (in lieu of coin) = 30,000 seal reward.
    This, plus the original 20,000 you had left would immediately put you at the 50,000 seal cap.

    If, however, in between applying for promotion and completing quest (it may take some a while), you earn seals then you will run into the problem:
    20,000 seals left after applying.
    5,000 seals earned from doing caravans with friends, maybe a side quest or two.
    25,000 seals before finishing quest + 5,000 seal reward + 25,000 seal reward = 55,000 seals, putting you over the 50k cap.

    Having the 25,000 seal reward as a 'coin' that is redeemable would ensure you could get those 25,000 seals when you have 'room' to store 25,000 seals (i.e., when you are at 25,000 or less, as opposed to 30,000 and thus loose out on 5000 seals).

    Therefore I think the logic is this:
    25,000 seals is not the 'cost' for promotion, but simply a requirement to have for promotion. It is 'met' by being withdrawn from you.
    Upon completion, the 25,000 seals are 'returned' to you.
    In order to ensure that you do not exceed the 50k cap, it is returned to you in 'coin' form.

    A side perk: Those who like to collect things can collect this one-in-a-kind once-in-a-lifetime item, and treasure it for years to come as a pretty shiny thing.
    Another side perk: If you re-reach cap at 50k seals, and have coin, you in essence have 75k seals on hand. So if next month the grand company sells a bunch of items you HAVE to have right away that cost a total of 75k, you are set!


    I'm pretty much sure this is all its good for, and it's original intent.
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    Last edited by Asiaine; 06-22-2012 at 04:35 PM.

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    AdvancedWind's Avatar
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    Ashley Zeibel
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    Arcanist Lv 60
    What Asiaine said makes the most sense, IMO. It also explains the sudden increase in promotion price, last rank cost was 5k.
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    Krausus's Avatar
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    Krausus Dracul
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    Quote Originally Posted by AdvancedWind View Post
    What Asiaine said makes the most sense, IMO. It also explains the sudden increase in promotion price, last rank cost was 5k.

    Im thinking the 25k was because it is an important rank up moving up to officer from enlisted, Im thinking that moving up to Lieutenant 1st class wont be as many seals and the next big rank up will probably be Captain, then Major, then Colonel x 2, and lastly General x 5. Based off US Army ranks which closely resemble Imperial Japanese Army ranks
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    Last edited by Krausus; 06-23-2012 at 12:49 AM.

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    Catapult's Avatar
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    Thal Icebound
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    Ravana
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    Dancer Lv 100
    I will keep my coin. I'm a collector of these things. No other reason. So people can deal with it.
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    Anonymoose's Avatar
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    Anony Moose
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    Quote Originally Posted by Catapult View Post
    I will keep my coin. I'm a collector of these things. No other reason. So people can deal with it.
    I'm still on the fence. Gonna hold onto it for now, but no reason not to let something fulfill its intended potential if that's all it'll ever be.

    Then again, I did collect all of the colored candies in FFXI for no reason.
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    "I shall refrain from making any further wild claims until such time as I have evidence."
    – Y'shtola

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    Athalia Hartfell
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    I'll hold onto the coin since it is likely to be a one time thing. 25k seals is nothing.
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    I find it funny that everyone is NPC'n them when if you remember when Jobs first came out people were NPC'n Keepers Hymn's because they didn't know what they were for. I'll keep my coin, worst off I'm chewing up one inv slot, gonna rofl when coin is for something big in 1.23/2.0

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    Zdenka Vaera
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    Quote Originally Posted by Otaku View Post
    I find it funny that everyone is NPC'n them when if you remember when Jobs first came out people were NPC'n Keepers Hymn's because they didn't know what they were for. I'll keep my coin, worst off I'm chewing up one inv slot, gonna rofl when coin is for something big in 1.23/2.0
    The patch Keeper's Hymn was added, the patch notes had it in read that it would be useable in the future + dev posts told us what it was for before that patch was released.
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    Viritess's Avatar
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    Viritess Vonschalt
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    Sargatanas
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    Lancer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Zdenka View Post
    The patch Keeper's Hymn was added, the patch notes had it in read that it would be useable in the future + dev posts told us what it was for before that patch was released.
    Wouldn't mind some info from the Devs on the coin too. If they do say something i'll be looking for codewords like "plans" and "at this time". If so, i'll likely hang onto it. Just not sure the Devs here seem more undecided on the very items they have/release which makes me even more uncertain when it comes to the items i get.

    Never had alot of beastmen coins since i haven't even been playing that long, but sure wish i had held onto what i did have
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    IStolzI's Avatar
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    Stolz Phoenix
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    Thaumaturge Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Otaku View Post
    I find it funny that everyone is NPC'n them when if you remember when Jobs first came out people were NPC'n Keepers Hymn's because they didn't know what they were for. I'll keep my coin, worst off I'm chewing up one inv slot, gonna rofl when coin is for something big in 1.23/2.0
    Keepers Hymn was obviously for something in the future. This obviously isn't.
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