can we increase the flamethrower range?

[NobleWinter]

Flame Thrower needs to be a skill that comes from a deployed turret allowing us to continue our rotation while it's happening. That's the only thing that makes any sense to me if it's not going to generate any gauge and can't be moved once it has started.

[Reinhardt_Azureheim]

Literally just let it generate heat per tick. It literally did that in Stormblood when heat management was an actual thing.

I love the powertools but holy shit they didnt need to axe every good idea stormblood had.

[Valence]

Literally just let it generate heat per tick. It literally did that in Stormblood when heat management was an actual thing.

I love the powertools but holy shit they didnt need to axe every good idea stormblood had.

Pretty much. We got nice tools but at what cost? Ammo and rng procs, reloading, pre WF pattern identification, heat management, an actual WF that felt good... And a useful flamethrower, never thought I'd actually praise the ability in SB considering how ping discriminatory it was, but at least it was useful for the kit.

At least it feels intricate and good in pvp.

[Reinhardt_Azureheim]

Pretty much. We got nice tools but at what cost? Ammo and rng procs, reloading, pre WF pattern identification, heat management, an actual WF that felt good... And a useful flamethrower, never thought I'd actually praise the ability in SB considering how ping discriminatory it was, but at least it was useful for the kit.

At least it feels intricate and good in pvp.

The funny thing is, what made Overheating so shit in terms of how strict the timing was is what they started fixing utilising buff stacks per GCD later on.

[Taranok]

Pretty much. We got nice tools but at what cost? Ammo and rng procs, reloading, pre WF pattern identification, heat management, an actual WF that felt good... And a useful flamethrower, never thought I'd actually praise the ability in SB considering how ping discriminatory it was, but at least it was useful for the kit.

At least it feels intricate and good in pvp.

Unfortunately the design's best aspect, heat management, was aborted in keeping the core of its HW rotation, 'ammo' management and piano bursting. I would have loved if they kept the class as a heat management class where you wanted to exclusively juggle heat. I feel if they focused on heat management, it would be better overall.

That said, I have no love lost for that version of the class. Needing to intentionally overheat the class and wildfire burst and still piano burst while managing ammo and doing that bizarre 323121 rotation that existed back then just wasn't worth the headache. That said, I do actually miss the 323121 ammo burst. That was actually fun.

Machinist as a heat management class could have been so interesting, but instead it's a cooldown class which is...fine, but not the best.

[Valence]

"Later on" is an euphemism. Took them what, all of ShB + half of EW?

[Valence]

It's boring is what it is, much like GNB. Just press a lot of different long cooldowns on cooldown, else they drift. Whoo.

[Voidedge_Ragna]

You could reasonably do what Drill/Bioblaster is.

Make it a Ogcd with shared Air Anchor recast
give it 20 heat
give it a lingering dot

Maybe limit it to one of those dots at a time, or even create a interaction when both are active at the same time.

[CKNovel]

Increase its range to 30y and its duration to 60s
So I can finally truly AFK during dungeons.

[CKNovel]

Based on my own math I did a long while ago, Flamethrower is worth using on 4+ target if!
-Bio Blaster isn't coming back in the next 10 seconds
-Chain Saw isn't coming back in the next 10 seconds
-You have a low Heat gauge (0~10)
-You can't ensure a full duration of Hypercharge

If those conditions aren't filled, you're better just spamming Scattergun, especially if you a Reassemble ready for CS/Scattergun.
But remind yourself we're talking about ridiculous gain of potencies that might not even make you gain a second.