Outrunning Aggressive Mobs

[Krausus]

its amazing how many people complained about ants in thanalan until they where moved now people want them back ><. wait for 2.0 the world will drasticaly change and zones will probably not be so large, could you imagine a mob chasing you from the ferry to the black shroud o.O

Seems to me XI's design was a flawed mechanic that folks got used to so they never changed it.

[Chiper]

I'm shocked nobody has mentioned the fact that it does seem some what "cheap" that players can basiclly power level themselves with the current retreat system that mobs have. I've seen far too many players (mages mostly, since they can get away with it) that just group up a bunch of monsters, cast their first AoE spell, run away until that group retreats (and they'll still all be clumped together), AoE again, run away, and rinse and repeat the process with little to no HP loss. There needs to be some kind of penalty. A group of mobs should be laying the smack down on you.

Increase the distance at which mobs will continue to chase you, unless you're on a leve quest (since they are timed, you don't want to run down the clock, mind you they only take about 10-15 mins to complete anyways with a bunch of spare time left over) or anything else where time is of the essence.

[Krausus]

I'm shocked nobody has mentioned the fact that it does seem some what "cheap" that players can basiclly power level themselves with the current retreat system that mobs have. I've seen far too many players (mages mostly, since they can get away with it) that just group up a bunch of monsters, cast their first AoE spell, run away until that group retreats (and they'll still all be clumped together), AoE again, run away, and rinse and repeat the process with little to no HP loss. There needs to be some kind of penalty. A group of mobs should be laying the smack down on you.

Increase the distance at which mobs will continue to chase you, unless you're on a leve quest (since they are timed, you don't want to run down the clock, mind you they only take about 10-15 mins to complete anyways with a bunch of spare time left over) or anything else where time is of the essence.

there are much more faster and efficient ways to level, if people are still doing the above (haven't seen this since like a few months after release) then they are only hurting themselves and more power to them.

[Hyrist]

Sorry, but I actually like the current mob behavior, and actually feel as if monsters some monsters defiantly could be a bit more cowardly.

"I spied you out of the corner of my eye, I MUST FIGHT YOU TO THE DEATH WITH NO REGARD FOR SELF PRESERVATION!"

Seriously. That gets old.

I like how the Squirrels and Marmots can run an cower from you. I like how Antilion's will back away from you to expose their hind end for a back-kick if you're not wise.

Or how Raptors use a tail swipe move instead of their breath if you try to sneak behind them.

I also like how aggressive monsters and players are, in fact, territorial, and if you decide to run, they eventually beleive you're not worth the chase, are return to their set territory.

But about this issue of not being dangerious to explore? Ever go down the wrong path in Gridania and be greeted by a pack of level 22 wolves? Or take a wrong turn into what you THOUGHT was a shortcut and instead get nommed on by a level 72 Drake?

The dangers are there. But staying on the beaten path keeps you safe, which, guess what? It makes sense!

Now one thing I can agree on is that monsters should have varying run speeds. Some monsters should be a bit faster and others, slower. I also agree that night time should have a ting of fear to it (Or excitement for those out to hunt nasty undead things.) But it should not break the over all feel of the game.

As stated many times before, this is not FFXI, this should never be FFXI. FFXI has it's own appeal, and from the look of it, it's own new content to consider. If that's the game you want to play, please go play it over there.

Each chapter in Final Fantasy has been a new world with it's own twists and imaginings of the tried and true systems. Even the Sequals have had enough variation to have the game stand on it's own mertis. FFXIV should be no different in that sense.

[Vaer]

I love tripping a zone line and then mobs that one shot me appear out of thin air and kill me because they didn't load fast enough. Seamless zoning ftw!

[Alerith]

I find the OP irrelevant.

Assuming a level 1 Pugilist could get through a level 50 area...so what? What exactly are they going to do? Admire the scenery and go home? That's about it.

Whether they can explore the area or not is irrelevant because you still have to be of an appropriate level to benefit from the content of the area.

Are you that miffed that a level 1 player can actually go...*gasp*...adventuring!?

[Firon]

i don't even get this thread xi was far more safe cause of sneak and inv. I ran newly created mule from sandy to aletpa desert open the door for savage blade fight to open when i could get the help.

[Jynx]

i don't even get this thread xi was far more safe cause of sneak and inv. I ran newly created mule from sandy to aletpa desert open the door for savage blade fight when i could get the help.

That's one of the benifits of having a higher level character or resources available to you. A fresh level 1 character with no support would have a much harder time acheiving that goal.

I understand the leashing mechanics but it just seems odd that you can outrun almost all agro on chocoback I've blitz between groups of level 80 monsters and came out the other side unscathed something that should not happen. Extend the territory range for one because as it stands it's laughably short in most cases. As long as you are far enough away when you get agro there is 0 chance you will be killed unless you screw up or run into something else.

If you agro a monster you should have to pay the repurcussions of your clumsyness.

[ESAR]

I'm playing dungeon hunter 3 on my iPhone and its really cool because as you level up the mobs movement speed increases.
birds are the craziest. you can run, but they stick to you like glue. lol
the stagnant 80% movement speed that we currently have for mobs is a little off putting for me.
it's super hard to die. if I get lower then 20% health I run. mob gets one more hit at best.

[RahJah]

I'm playing dungeon hunter 3 on my iPhone and its really cool because as you level up the mobs movement speed increases.
birds are the craziest. you can run, but they stick to you like glue. lol

I like this idea. The mob mechanics could change as the mobs increase in levels to keep us guessing. I mean honestly, after you figure out how to evade aggro from the system, if the system doesn't change the challenge is lost. This is a really good post thanks.