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    ShmorgyBorgy's Avatar
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    Neha Tarot
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    Ultros
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    Dark Knight Lv 90

    How do I make CC (Crystaline Conflict) enjoyable for myself?

    For context: I have never been that big for tab-target pvp. It's an awkward experience in itself, but for most cases it isn't too bad. With that said, I tend to stop with it after being able to acquire a item or novelty I might like, and usually it comes out as a decently enjoyable experience.

    This doesn't apply to CC however. I'm not sure what it is, but the gamemode finds a way to get under my skin and bring the worst version of myself out. It's as if it was designed to make me miserable. I have rarely enjoyed any matches. Most the time it's the entire enemy team spamming stuns on you until you die. Most the time it's a morale-crushing defeat, with some matches barely lasting a minute. Dramatic clutches where we win against all odds just feel like a waste of time where I could have gotten the loser's xp and move on to another match by then. This could be a case of skill being required, but even in the cases where I actually perform, I find no enjoyment from winning and even the great rewards don't give much excitement. The experience feels like a sunk cost fallacy for gameplay.

    The time-gated rewards don't help much either. I was genuinely excited for the augmented hellhound weapons, as I thought they were neat. Yet, when I found they were behind a fleeting ranked status that I am fairly certain will not be reached, I considered it something I will never get. At the very least most people consider them not that attractive so maybe I'm sparing myself some humiliation lol.

    I just don't know really. I know it's certainly my desire to win, but in the end that experience seems a dime a dozen, and the added pressure of items that will be unavailable possibly forever makes it seem arduous. I'm not necessarily asking for answers more than I am speaking from my heart, but I do wonder if others, maybe a majority, have a similar distaste for the CC experience as myself.

    I don't intend to return here. I don't think I'll even read the replies. I just felt the need to get it off my chest and put my expression of a gamemode that I want to enjoy and see a sense of satisfaction for the things I earn from it. At least a daily frontline can suffice for now.

    If I do get humiliated for this post, It'd be hard to, since I've no pride left. That's one thing I can give CC compliments for: keeping me from arrogance. It's a shame I won't play it if I don't have to.

    P.S. Give us party mode pvp. Playing with friends is the only way for me to possibly like it.
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    Archeron's Avatar
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    Edwin Vancleef
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    Golem
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    PvP in FFXIV is an accquired taste, I'd recommend trying other games, and not getting mired in the disaster that the FFXIV pvp forums are.
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    Ysera Sternenglanz
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    Astrologian Lv 90
    oh and its allways the same classes bcause its unbalanced as fuck
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    Sunie Dakwhil
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    The answer is possibly that as said above it's an acquired taste. I can't speak for all MMOs pvp, but so far it seems to be within the same bounds for me. What I appreciate is the mechanics behind.

    I could potentially see the mode being off-putting to a lot of people due to its high lethality actually, you can get deleted very fast, especially when CCed in a bad position, and I guess it can feel frustrating. I know there is various multiplayer games with different degrees of lethality and the best example I can think of the difference between say, Dota2 and HotS for example.
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    Ryutaro Mori
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    Dancer Lv 90
    You play so much that you become numb to losing. That's the ticket to enjoyment, my friend.
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    Malganis Lefay
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tehmon View Post
    You play so much that you become numb to losing. That's the ticket to enjoyment, my friend.
    soo.... basicly go full stockholm syndrome?
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    Player fantasiaaddict's Avatar
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    Luneth Harvey
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    By not playing.

    Bonuses of not playing:
    - No FOMO
    - No need to wonder why your team fails at the most simplest thing to do in the game (Standing on the crystal)
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    Player Mithron's Avatar
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    Mithron Scarlet
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    Get good at NIN and solo carry every match with no counter play.
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    Xeonerable Fenrir
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    Just find the job you enjoy, move the crystal, and just preemptively accept the fact that its completely random if you win or lose.

    Its unbalanced to begin with so there is no strategy to winning when everything is random.
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    Elfidan Gadfor
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    Reaper Lv 100
    It's not really something that can be defined for you. If you enjoy it enough to play despite the utter randomness of even ranked match making you do. If you don't I wouldn't bother. No sense making yourself miserable in an attempt to enjoy something you don't.

    As for tab targeting, I find a key bind for closest enemy helps a lot but I also just mouse people often. This isn't great advice since you may play with controller (sorry if so).

    The time gated stuff has been mostly meh and the rated locked stuff is not worth the time unless you really like minor ascetics. I glam the NIN weapon for instance, but I only play it in PVP. So mostly pointless. The frames are worse as they mostly shout focus me or "I'm that guy" to anyone who sees them. It's basically PVPs legend status. It should mean something, but we mostly heckle it as it was free across multiple seasons.

    Yeah, the stun locking is commonly disliked. I agree the huge 99.9% to 100% comebacks suck. I would rather play two games in that time and maybe even win both than win a single 20+ minute game. Again, much of the Overtime design is commonly disliked.

    I would hope nobody would humiliate you for asking a legitimate question and voicing your point of view but if you do return, please don't let any negative rhetoric get you down. If you enjoy the combat I hope you continue to play, but the rewards just aren't worth it alone.
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    If there was a downvote button I'd be pressing it.

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