The thing about the new shatter is that not only does it not encourage PvP, people are not pvping on it. Everytime I queue for it I see people running past each other on opposing teams, theres a thousand bards just plonking crystals the entire game.

But I guess we can't have PvP. Can't wait for borderland ruins to come back as another "Whack the pinata for points!" map.

Wheres our king of the hill type maps? Why not innovate and put a capture the flag style map? How about an all out deathmatch for points, no PvE included.

I think the PvP devs need to go out and play other MMORPG's, and experience what works, and what doesn't work. Steal, and innovate on their good ideas and throw whatever doesn't work in the garbage.