Revert Shatter back to the Original Map

[Nubrication]

Honestly do any of you enjoy the new shatter more than the old one? WTF is with this map now? Theres literally no incentive to PvP with how fast nodes spawn, and it takes just as long as borderland ruins. Who thought taking the PvP out of shatter, and turning it into a point pinata rush was fun?

Shatter is a PvE mode. There wasn’t actual PVP in shatter for a long time now. I think stormblood was the last time people actually “pvp’d” in shatter. For context:

1. There weren’t as many FL players as there is now. Most of the time there were 8-man premades that basically hard carried alliances.
2. There was no respawn immunity. So there was a strategy that if 2 alliances were taking a large ice completely out of the way, your team would take their base nodes instead. Having all 3 bases capped gave a ton of compounding points, enough to offset not hitting a big ice.
3. These 8-man parties would sandwich enemy alliances constantly and be nigh impossible to kill, due to really good healers, dps, tanks.

Ever since 8-man party removal and respawn immunity - pvp in shatter went downhill. It was already a bad mode to begin with, and they took away any incentive to pvp. Now it’s even worse, just make sure you put your <icebreaker> title cause that’s all anyone is doing anyways.

What they could’ve done to shatter was basically create a big ground node around the ice every time they spawned. You wouldn’t need to hit the ice for points. You would generate points just by being in the ground node, eventually depleting it. People fighting in said node space would get extra points for killing opposing players (kill pts + node pts factor).

[Bergfinn]

Shatter is a PvE mode. There wasn’t actual PVP in shatter for a long time now. I think stormblood was the last time people actually “pvp’d” in shatter.

Maybe things were like that on your datacenter, but on Primal, even before the whole PvP rework we got in EW (aka way bf smn/drk/drg LB stacking where a thing), a team could easily win by doing pvp only.



On topic: I'm all in for the map be reverted back, the new map is horrible in so many levels compared to the previous version, not just the constant ice spawning but also how tanky they are now for no reason, stalling the match more than needed. No escape routes for all teams on each big ice at the corners, and for last, the walls around the big ice on middle being more a hindrance than a good thing.

[MsMisato]

not just the constant ice spawning but also how tanky they are now for no reason, stalling the match more than needed.

This^ the matches seem sooo drawn now on the rework map of shatter.. Longer than Seal Rock, and Onsal too me. I don't queue up forit anymore after trying it a few times on launch day.

[Burmecia]

What they could’ve done to shatter was basically create a big ground node around the ice every time they spawned. You wouldn’t need to hit the ice for points. You would generate points just by being in the ground node, eventually depleting it. People fighting in said node space would get extra points for killing opposing players (kill pts + node pts factor).

I think this seems like fun idea