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  1. #1
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    Caimie_Tsukino's Avatar
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    Caimie Tsukino
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    Zalera
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    Goldsmith Lv 90

    Re-vamped old macros for the new 4-star recipes in patch 6.4

    To be fair, this time our 70 durab 4* recipes are slightly trickier in terms of progress. Previously, from 6.2 to 6.3, we just need very minor modifications, such as substituting Basic Syn with Careful Syn. This time, it's a bit harsher. Ideally, we actually wanna put in 1 more Groundwork during the Groundwork streak. But that will leave us with 1 fewer Prep Touch during WN II, which in the end causes a lot of problems since we'll run out of durab before reaching IQ10, which means we can't use Trained Finesse despite durab as low as 15. In the end, I decided to not add in that Groundwork, but invest more GP towards the end to patch up that missing progress.

    /ac "Muscle Memory" <wait.3>
    /ac "Manipulation" <wait.2>
    /ac "Veneration" <wait.2>
    /ac "Waste Not II" <wait.2>
    /ac "Groundwork" <wait.3>
    /ac "Groundwork" <wait.3>
    /ac "Groundwork" <wait.3>
    /ac "Innovation" <wait.2>
    /ac "Preparatory Touch" <wait.3>
    /ac "Preparatory Touch" <wait.3>
    /ac "Preparatory Touch" <wait.3>
    /ac "Preparatory Touch" <wait.3>
    /echo EW 4* 70dur #1 692cp Done! <se.2>

    /actionerror off
    /ac "Innovation" <wait.2>
    /ac "Prudent Touch" <wait.3>
    /ac "Prudent Touch" <wait.3>
    /ac "Trained Finesse" <wait.3>
    /ac "Trained Finesse" <wait.3>
    /ac "Innovation" <wait.2>
    /ac "Tricks of the Trade" <wait.3>
    /ac "Great Strides" <wait.2>
    /ac "Byregot's Blessing" <wait.3>
    /ac "Veneration" <wait.2>
    /ac "Prudent Synthesis" <wait.3>
    /ac "Basic Synthesis" <wait.3>
    /echo EW 4* 70dur #2 692cp Complete! <se.6>
    /actionerror on

    In terms of quality gain, here's the test with my stats:


    My rotation leaves me 2871 quality to be filled up with HQ mats. So I use 3 pieces of HQ mats. However, usually 1 or 2 touches will land on Goods, and that means even 2 pieces is probably sufficient (especially if doing it manually).

    If 692 CP is too high for you, you can always simply remove a Trained Finesse (step 16 or 17), and that will reduce the CP requirement to 660 CP. Of course that will mean needing more HQ mats, but it's totally viable.

    Once again, I strongly recommend using Trial Syn first to see if you can complete the item before doing the real thing. Also, pay attention to Specialist vs Non-specialist issue... your Non-specialists will have significantly fewer craftsmanship. So be careful.

    As for the 35 durab items, well, we don't really need too many of these for the final product. But I think I made a very nice rotation below. The qual gain is also listed in the test above. Also, the Poor-proof Tricks of the Trade is not needed here, since we don't really care if 1 or 2 of these intermediate mats turned out NQ. But we do care about speed.

    /ac "Muscle Memory" <wait.3>
    /ac "Manipulation" <wait.2>
    /ac "Veneration" <wait.2>
    /ac "Waste Not II" <wait.2>
    /ac "Groundwork" <wait.3>
    /ac "Groundwork" <wait.3>
    /ac "Innovation" <wait.2>
    /ac "Preparatory Touch" <wait.3>
    /ac "Preparatory Touch" <wait.3>
    /ac "Preparatory Touch" <wait.3>
    /ac "Preparatory Touch" <wait.3>
    /echo EW 4* 35dur #1 634cp Done! <se.2>

    /ac "Master's Mend" <wait.3>
    /ac "Innovation" <wait.2>
    /ac "Preparatory Touch" <wait.3>
    /ac "Great Strides" <wait.2>
    /ac "Byregot's Blessing" <wait.3>
    /ac "Basic Synthesis" <wait.3>
    /echo EW 4* 35dur #2 634cp Complete! <se.6>
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    Last edited by Caimie_Tsukino; 05-25-2023 at 01:29 PM.

    “The best crafter is not the one with the best stats, but the one who makes the best use of one’s stats” – By Caimie Tsukino

  2. #2
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    StouterTaru's Avatar
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    Stouter Taru
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    Thaumaturge Lv 90
    I ended up with something similar, I have 4282 Craftsmanship and the rotation uses 670 CP

    First two macros:
    /ac "Muscle Memory" <wait.3>
    /ac "Manipulation" <wait.2>
    /ac "Veneration" <wait.2>
    /ac "Waste Not II" <wait.2>
    /ac "Groundwork" <wait.3>
    /ac "Groundwork" <wait.3>
    /ac "Groundwork" <wait.3>
    /ac "Innovation" <wait.2>
    /ac "Preparatory Touch" <wait.3>
    /ac "Preparatory Touch" <wait.3>
    /ac "Preparatory Touch" <wait.3>
    /ac "Preparatory Touch" <wait.3>
    /ac "Innovation" <wait.2>
    /ac "Delicate Synthesis" <wait.3>
    /ac "Prudent Touch" <wait.3>
    /ac "Trained Finesse" <wait.3>
    /ac "Trained Finesse" <wait.3>
    /ac "Great Strides" <wait.2>

    3rd Macro (Good/Excellent Condition)
    /micon "Intensive Synthesis"
    /ac "Byregot's Blessing" <wait.3>
    /ac "Careful Synthesis" <wait.3>

    3rd Macro (Normal/Poor Condition)
    /micon "Careful Synthesis"
    /ac "Innovation" <wait.2>
    /ac "Byregot's Blessing" <wait.3>
    /ac "Careful Synthesis" <wait.3>
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  3. #3
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    Alya Mizar
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    Sargatanas
    Main Class
    Marauder Lv 72
    Mine still work for me. Different finish is all.

    Stats: Crafts 4097, Cont 3891, 594 CPs non specialist, no food. I do use seafood stew HQ for the extra Cont. All possible materials are HQed.

    70 durability, 590 CPs

    /ac "Muscle Memory" <wait.3>
    /ac "Manipulation" <wait.2>
    /ac "Veneration" <wait.2>
    /ac "Waste Not II" <wait.2>
    /ac "Groundwork" <wait.3>
    /ac "Delicate Synthesis" <wait.3>
    /ac "Basic Touch" <wait.3>
    /ac "Standard Touch" <wait.3>
    /ac "Advanced Touch" <wait.3>
    /echo "Macro #1 Complete" <se.1>

    /ac "Basic Touch" <wait.3>
    /ac "Standard Touch" <wait.3>
    /ac "Advanced Touch" <wait.3>
    /ac "Great Strides" <wait.2>
    /ac "Innovation" <wait.2>
    /ac "Basic Touch" <wait.3>
    /ac "Great Strides" <wait.2>
    /ac "Byregot's Blessing" <wait.3>
    /ac "Veneration" <wait.2>
    /ac "Groundwork" <wait.3>

    /ac "Prudent Synthesis" <wait.3>
    /ac "Prudent Synthesis" <wait.3>
    /ac "Prudent Synthesis" Edit: Careful synthesis saves 11 CPs.

    My 35 durability macros need work.

    Had to meld 18 crafts, use competent craftsman's drought HQ AND go specialist.

    643 CPs, NQ Tsai tou Vounou.

    EDIT: Mejillones al Ajillo HQ is all I really needed /blush. CP max 70, Crafts max 105 ... No melds needed.

    /ac "Muscle Memory" <wait.3>
    /ac Manipulation <wait.2>
    /ac Veneration <wait.2>
    /ac Groundwork <wait.3>
    /ac "Basic Touch" <wait.3>
    /ac "Prudent Touch" <wait.3>
    /ac "Prudent Touch" <wait.3>
    /ac "Prudent Touch" <wait.3>
    /ac "Prudent Touch" <wait.3>
    /ac Manipulation <wait.2>
    /ac Innovation <wait.2>
    /ac "Waste Not" <wait.2>
    /echo Macro #1 finished <se.1>

    /ac "Basic Touch" <wait.3>
    /ac "Standard Touch" <wait.3>
    /ac "Advanced Touch" <wait.3>
    /ac "Great Strides" <wait.2>
    /ac Innovation <wait.2>
    /ac Observe <wait.3>
    /ac "Focused Touch" <wait.3>
    /ac "Great Strides" <wait.2>
    /ac "Byregot's Blessing" <wait.3>
    /ac "Veneration" <wait.2>
    /ac "Careful Synthesis" <wait.3>
    /ac "Careful Synthesis"
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    Last edited by Shadygrove; 05-27-2023 at 08:56 AM.

  4. #4
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    MarkusGharthet's Avatar
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    Markus Tovenaar
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    Ultros
    Main Class
    Summoner Lv 90
    My macros didn't change much either. I have Crafts 4021, Cont 3987, 601 CP.

    35 Durability macros (HQ Calamari Ripieni, HQ Commanding Craftsman's Draught, No Specialist)

    Macro #1
    /ac "Muscle Memory" <wait.3>
    /ac "Manipulation" <wait.2>
    /ac "Veneration" <wait.2>
    /ac "Waste Not II" <wait.2>
    /ac "Groundwork" <wait.3>
    /ac "Groundwork" <wait.3>
    /ac "Innovation" <wait.2>
    /ac "Preparatory Touch" <wait.3>
    /ac "Preparatory Touch" <wait.3>
    /ac "Preparatory Touch" <wait.3>
    /ac "Preparatory Touch" <wait.3>
    /ac "Master's Mend" <wait.3>
    /ac "Innovation" <wait.2>
    /echo Macro #1 finished <se.1>

    Macro #2
    /ac "Preparatory Touch" <wait.3>
    /ac "Great Strides" <wait.2>
    /ac "Byregot's Blessing" <wait.3>
    /ac "Careful Synthesis" <wait.3>
    /echo Craft finished <se.2>

    70 Durability macros (All HQ mats, HQ Calamari Ripieni, No Specialist)

    Macro #1
    /ac "Muscle Memory" <wait.3>
    /ac "Manipulation" <wait.2>
    /ac "Veneration" <wait.2>
    /ac "Waste Not" <wait.2>
    /ac "Groundwork" <wait.3>
    /ac "Groundwork" <wait.3>
    /ac "Groundwork" <wait.3>
    /ac "Delicate Synthesis" <wait.3>
    /ac "Innovation" <wait.2>
    /ac "Prudent Touch" <wait.3>
    /ac "Basic Touch" <wait.3>
    /ac "Standard Touch" <wait.3>
    /ac "Advanced Touch" <wait.3>
    /ac "Manipulation" <wait.2>
    /echo Macro #1 finished <se.1>

    Macro #2
    /ac "Innovation" <wait.2>
    /ac "Basic Touch" <wait.3>
    /ac "Basic Touch" <wait.3>
    /ac "Standard Touch" <wait.3>
    /ac "Advanced Touch" <wait.3>
    /ac "Innovation" <wait.2>
    /ac "Basic Touch" <wait.3>
    /ac "Byregot's Blessing" <wait.3>
    /ac "Veneration" <wait.3>
    /ac "Careful Synthesis" <wait.3>
    /echo Craft finished <se.2>
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  5. #5
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    Halicarnassus
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    Sage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Caimie_Tsukino View Post
    To be fair, this time our 70 durab 4* recipes are slightly trickier in terms of progress. ...

    My rotation leaves me 2871 quality to be filled up with HQ mats. So I use 3 pieces of HQ mats. However, usually 1 or 2 touches will land on Goods, and that means even 2 pieces is probably sufficient (especially if doing it manually).
    Note that when crafting items (like food) that don't have many crafted mats, you need fewer of them to be HQ.
    For example, for Baked Eggplant, HQ Garlean Cheese (L84) gives 2569 quality each, and HQ Frantoio Oil (L71) gives 1880.
    With one of each, giving 4450 starting quality, one Trained Finesse can be dropped.
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