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    zeth07's Avatar
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    Zeth Hiryu
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    Dragoon Lv 100

    Dragon Sight change - Just remove positionals already

    Come on now, this is getting silly. I already made a big thread about this in the past so I'm not going to go crazy but they literally just added more fuel to my fire for why positionals are stupid almost 10 years into the game now.

    It's time. Just rip the band-aid off.
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    Marcelloix Ostoiraint
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    Coeurl
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    Bard Lv 100

    dragon sight change

    don't hold your breath waiting for this change.
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    Zira Zira
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    No, go play another role if you don't like them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZiraZ View Post
    No, go play another role if you don't like them.
    We'll see how you react when they finally do. I'll be sure to check and see if you stop playing DRG just because they removed positionals.

    Cause if me playing the job for almost 10 years is going to change one way or the other because of it after I've been doing it already THE WHOLE TIME, that sure would make a lot of sense...

    I'm not the one making these changes to actively get rid of the purpose of them to begin with..............they are already doing it themselves.
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    Stop asking for removals, and not reading all that
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZiraZ View Post
    Stop asking for removals, and not reading all that
    Is your enjoyment of fights based on the fact that you have to do positionals or not? Since some fights don't require them anyway, regardless of having to use the abilities or not.
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    Tani Shirai
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    Quote Originally Posted by zeth07 View Post
    Is your enjoyment of fights based on the fact that you have to do positionals or not?
    In part, yes. Just as it is in part dependent on other means of movement/apm. I like... doing things.

    Positionals are the one way to provide additional apm that doesn't even require additional buttons and can be contextually varied; they're therefore exceedingly efficient, design-wise, in giving me more to do.
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    Aco Nale
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    No, do not remove positionals. I don't like this change but I hope it's mostly a band-aid thing due to how complicated it can be to fit extra non-damaging oGCDs in even-minute bursts sometimes.
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    Caius Megaflare
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    Positionals are an integral part of the roles of Melee removing them would be like making a huge slap in the face of their identities.

    The game is casual enough and I don't want the gameplay to get any more bland, so no thanks that's not a good idea.
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    Arilaya Syldove
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    Quote Originally Posted by remiff View Post
    Positionals are an integral part of the roles of Melee removing them would be like making a huge slap in the face of their identities.

    The game is casual enough and I don't want the gameplay to get any more bland, so no thanks that's not a good idea.
    They're also an integral part of why boss design is static. As well as why mdps can be frustrating or annoying to play in fights where the only valid strategy is to force the team to stand in very specific spots. Literally every ultimate ever is a good example of the latter, while P2S, wall bosses, and BA/DRS are a good example of better boss design with the former.

    Also, challenging melee by forcing them out of melee is, was, and always will be a more interesting challenge for the class than positionals are. This is before factoring in server overhead to check for positional attacks or the sheer number of abilities dedicated to ignoring positional requirements. In reality, the most boring thing to happen to melee DPS is the devs bending over backwards in endwalker to cater specifically to this role at the expense of casters as a general whole.
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    Last edited by Taranok; 05-24-2023 at 05:52 AM.

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