Remember: the forums represent a tiny, loud minority

[subatomic]

Gameplay in Endwalker is horribly stale and bad. I hope they take this feedback and throw us a bone in the future.

Prime example of Complaint and not Feedback.

Thanks for the demonstration love <3

[Ath192]

Prime example of Complaint and not Feedback.

Thanks for the demonstration love <3

Oh its feedback, whether you like it or not.

feed·back
noun
1. Information about reactions to a product, a person's performance of a task, etc. which is used as a basis for improvement.

I have reacted negatively to this Product called Endwalker. Just don't crazy because you learned something today. Turns out the definition of feedback is a lot broader than you imagined it to be.

[subatomic]

Oh its feedback, whether you like it or not.

feed·back
noun
1. Information about reactions to a product, a person's performance of a task, etc. which is used as a basis for improvement.

I have reacted negatively to this Product called Endwalker. Just don't crazy because you learned something today. Turns out the definition of feedback is a lot broader than you imagined it to be.

But you provided no Information. All you did was say you hated it. What about the Information. :O

This is why it's a Complainf and not Feedback

[Ath192]

But you provided no Information. All you did was say you hated it. What about the Information. :O

This is why it's a Complainf and not Feedback

Again, to broaden your perspective of the world and the definitions of words.


in·for·ma·tion
noun
1. facts provided or learned about something or someone.

The fact is you just learned I didn't like Endwalker's gameplay. And that alone, is information.

[george357]

this is what you get when a bunch of squeaky wheels get together and post.

[subatomic]

Yoshi-P said the Silent leave first as we're not silent because most of us Care. If that is your Goal for us to not be so loud and more silent to " Stop Caring " then well done you.

subatomic = A true Negative Nancy glamoured to be positive.

Try not to make up quotes love <3

Oh and leave out the personal attacks

Anyways, you're Wrong about what Feedback means.

[CelestiCer]

Try not to make up quotes love <3

Oh and leave out the personal attacks

Anyways, you're Wrong about what Feedback means.

I guess Google is wrong then. Heck English isn't even my main Language...




As for making up quotes...



" The Silent always leave First "

Granted if you take anyone debunking your crap personal? hey <3 x3 *giggles*

[Renathras]

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Can you define the difference between feedback and complaining?

[Ath192]

Can you define the difference between feedback and complaining?

This is an all complaints are feedback, but not all feedback is complaints situation imo.

Take a look at how this business defines a complaint:

https://survicate.com/customer-feedb...plaints/#toc-0

What are customer complaints?
Customer complaints are pieces of feedback that let you know where customers experience problems with your product or service. They are opportunities for your business to improve your offering and create a better experience for your users.

[Deo14]

Most people playing the game don't use the official forums. They use Discord, Reddit, or Twitter.

False. Unless FFXIV is abnormality in videogames, all gamers who on regular basis interacts with game outside the actual game are minority, even if you include all discords, reddit and twitter.

If you consume any content outside the game, you're part of minority.

The negative Nancys on the forums are a Tiny, Loud minority. They are here just to complain and don't reflect the 20 million players who still enjoy the game.

Why do you need to specify "negative Nancys" ? If our opinion is irrelevant, so is yours. I'm once again surprised on how others are surprised that discussion forums are predominantly negative. You don't go here to praise game, but to share your often negative opinions on certain topic. You don't go here to say that you like X or Y.

This is the point of official forums - feedback and constructive criticism. Do you want some positive fluff/fanart and so on? Go to the mainsub. Fancy some shitpost? r/shitpostxiv. Porn? Twitter.

Minority/majority argument will always be pointless, you cannot ever get opinions of majority of the player base.

You know who's minority? Whole JP player base. How about some sub ~5% minority? That's ultimate raiders. Do you want to use minority argument for jobs? Then every job's feedback is pointless since it reflects only ~1/19 of playerbase at best(assuming SE only counts feedback from job's mains, as they should, but unfortunately they don't). These minorities split into more minorities, each with different opinions. Are all of them "just a minority" who's opinions do not matter?

People like you just try to make others feel like their opinions are irrelevant. There is nothing wrong with trying to highlight things you like, but saying that the way others feel about the game is wrong is fundamentally just retarded. If you do that, your contributions to any discussions are negative. What are you even trying to accomplish? Convince others that the game is great? People know that, after all people who criticize the game do love the game. People who don't like the game silently leave. Or maybe you try to convince others to leave the game? Why, is there something wrong with striving for better game? Are we supposed to accept mediocrity?

Also it's not 20 million players by a long shot, latest stats show <1.4mil, but I wouldn't expect real data from someone who says that anyone who doesn't engage on forums is automatically satisfied with the game.