These forums are weird

[VelKallor]

It's perfect really. The best way to succeed in a capitalist society as a corporation is to act like you're on the side of the consumers and pretend to be best buddies with them.

Thats an overly cynical..id say even bitter and nihilistic approach. A corporation is not a living entity, it makes no independent judgements, that is the purview of those who work for it. I have seen many companies, large and small, new startups and established businesses.

Why does it actually surprise you that many try to do their best..their customers are what keeps them in business, in case you had forgotten.

Id also say this is a very limited worldview, as evidenced by the massive disparity in how employees are treated in the US vs the rest of the world.

Yoshi P is far better at this than most other devs. While many corporations fail at this and make cringe ads and what is obviously corporate virtue signaling (like all the Pride flags), sometimes there are savants that succeed and enrapture many fans.

I find no "virtue signaling" in pride flags whatsoever. If their policies are in line with that mindset, more power to them.

Really you can't even blame these people, Yoshi P is too good at his job. Maybe one day when consumers in the gaming space realize that corporations are your enemy and not your friend, we would get better quality products.

Thats an..odd..idea at best. I seem to recall that treating others as ones enemy tends to get in the way of any meaningful rapprochement..its counterproductive, in fact.

YoshiP has done a damned good job and I for one respect what he has done, no one is perfect , agreed, but to my mind at least, he has shown integrity and passion for the game, is well aware that this world of Eorzea exists because of us, the man is himself a gamer at heart.

For now, we just have to watch these savvy firms manufacture an image of themselves as something beyond capitalism, selling products that are more than mere commodities to make customers feel like they're engaging in more than a transaction, and therefore willingly pay much more for much lower quality products.

Yet FF 14 is a high quality game, well run, well supported and highly popular.

I see very little, if any , "low quality", as has been said no game is ever perfect ( if such a concept as a perfect game can even exist in the first place ), so I dont see how what we have ingame is any evidence of "low quality work"

[VelKallor]

Had to make two posts owing to length. Sorry folks.

Cont....

Example: the whining over Viera hats etc, Yoshi wasnt happy with the design issues, he still isnt, what tends to be elided over or deliberately ignored for their own agendas, is that the TEAM ITSELF designed 500 headpieces that would work, did so independently, took them to YoshiP who had ZERO idea they had even decided to attempt this ( i.e they did it on their own and hadnt told him)...that alone speaks to me on just how much they DO care about their players.

No one told them to do it, they just did. Why? Because they care about the game as much as he does..more in many ways. I am, at times, utterly baffled by attitudes like yours. I submit you look for enemies where none exist.

It's not even ironic at this point to say that 80% of FF14 players are paypigs with Yoshi P as the findom papa.

Speaking as one of those people you are sneering at, a flat no. I pay to play this game because I enjoy it. At such time as it ceases to do so, I will no longer be a subscriber. So the choice is, as always, in my hands, is it not?

Example: I loathed what Blizzard had done and I voted with my wallet. That IS the prerogative of every customer...so, by derivation, the fact the game is GROWING and so many new players are coming in, speaks volumes for the fact FF 14 has a broad appeal, which directly contradicts your narrative.

OF COURSE they make a profit, how do you think they pay their staff, pay their bills, keep the lights on and pay for the massive costs involved in making and maintaining an MMO. Profits are how they survive, those profits are DIRECTLY due to the fact so many enjoy their products.

Something to consider in light of your own narrative..wouldnt you say?

as allowing personal attacks on those who disagree,

Iscah? Yet they DO step in, as is evidenced by the sudden disappearance of one person, along with several vitriolic and highly personal attacks on me. They are here, Iscah..I suspect they give us a fair bit of latitude, but only to a certain point.

What those guidelines and limitations actually are..I dont know. But I do keep it in mind

[Shinkuno]

I see very little, if any , "low quality", as has been said no game is ever perfect ( if such a concept as a perfect game can even exist in the first place ), so I dont see how what we have ingame is any evidence of "low quality work"

If you cant see "low quality" then you are just a blind fanboy. Thats the truth. We have low quality textures and models. Low quality servers with low quality netcode. Low quality QOL with a low quality UI where every action needs 5 million confirm windows. Low quality casual content beyond "make it so easy even someone afk can do it". Theres nothing for people that want a bit of a challenge but dont want to / cant commit to savage.

Example: I loathed what Blizzard had done and I voted with my wallet. That IS the prerogative of every customer...so, by derivation, the fact the game is GROWING and so many new players are coming in, speaks volumes for the fact FF 14 has a broad appeal, which directly contradicts your narrative.
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And we have even more people leaving. Its quite clear from all your replies here that you are a mad "WoW refugee" (god such a stupid term) but cant let go of your "the game i play is the best ever" attitude so you are completly in denial about the quality of the game.

[VelKallor]

If you cant see "low quality" then you are just a blind fanboy. Thats the truth.

No, thats your opinion.

We have low quality textures and models.

Yes, With a huge graphics update on its way.

Low quality servers with low quality netcode.

I question how you know what kind of servers they have..as for netcode, they are working with a pre existing system, you do NOT want to know what is involved in looking at a brand new engine. The cost alone would give you a coronary

Low quality QOL with a low quality UI where every action needs 5 million confirm windows.

Changes and updates are made all the time. See the 6.4 patch notes. Incidentally, a window that says "are you sure you want to desynthesis this item" is a good way of avoiding a ticket that says "Help I just destroyed my new weapon". I dont see an issue with that.

Low quality casual content beyond "make it so easy even someone afk can do it".

Hyperbole. Massive exaggeration. Utterly false. Do better.

Theres nothing for people that want a bit of a challenge but dont want to / cant commit to savage.

There is plenty to do. I find loads to do each day.

And we have even more people leaving.

You know this...how?

Its quite clear from all your replies here that you are a mad "WoW refugee" (god such a stupid term) but cant let go of your "the game i play is the best ever" attitude so you are completly in denial about the quality of the game.

Yet I dont ever recall saying anything remotely like that.

In fact what i said was

I see very little, if any , "low quality", as has been said no game is ever perfect ( if such a concept as a perfect game can even exist in the first place ), so I dont see how what we have ingame is any evidence of "low quality work"

Helps if you read what i said and quote me accurately

[Renalt]

. Please, just go to Balmung and have them... whip you into shape.

With literally whips!

[GaiusDrakon]

is that the TEAM ITSELF designed 500 headpieces that would work, did so independently, took them to YoshiP who had ZERO idea they had even decided to attempt this ( i.e they did it on their own and hadnt told him)...that alone speaks to me on just how much they DO care about their players.

you are literally so gullible

do you believe yoshi p every time he says their employees just stayed back after work to make more primal weapons out of love of the game

he managed to make people applaud him for crunch overtime lmao

yoshi p should immediately resign and work for goldman sachs PR and make millions tbh. he's very talented indeed, on that we can agree. i just think his talent is in PR and corporate propaganda!

then again you might just be a SE employee anyways

[Shinkuno]

Yes, With a huge graphics update on its way.

I put a huge x to doubt on them going through every texture and upscaling it.

I question how you know what kind of servers they have..as for netcode, they are working with a pre existing system, you do NOT want to know what is involved in looking at a brand new engine. The cost alone would give you a coronary

Contrary to you, i actually play the game and the servers are probably worst in the industry and thats with GW2 included which had a huge zone lag issue some years ago.

Changes and updates are made all the time. See the 6.4 patch notes. Incidentally, a window that says "are you sure you want to desynthesis this item" is a good way of avoiding a ticket that says "Help I just destroyed my new weapon". I dont see an issue with that.

"I enjoy having no QOL because Little Timmy might mash his keyboard and desynth his weapon"

Hyperbole. Massive exaggeration. Utterly false. Do better.

Name me some content then

There is plenty to do. I find loads to do each day.

When you spend more time on the forums than ingame, you either dont actually have something to do, or you get nothing done and have a huge backlog of decade old content. 2k posts in 2 years btw.

[VelKallor]

2k posts in 2 years btw.

Join Date:Jan 2021 (Thats the forum, not the game itself, which was April 2019 )So: 2000 posts over 2 years 4 months, nope actually 2014 posts so :

2014 posts total as of today May 22 2023 = 2014 divided by 872 days= average of 2.3 posts per day approximately.

Your point is?

And no Im not ingame, I made some lovely sausage sandwiches and am reading two articles on genetic disease inheritance with emphasis on autosomal dominant disorders.

Its very interesting, actually.

[Winterfang]

Hyperbole. Massive exaggeration. Utterly false

Actually, that pretty much sums up Island Sanctuary. Set up your Mammet Sweatshops that take about 5 minutes a week then you pretty much do nothing and progress.

[VelKallor]

Actually, that pretty much sums up Island Sanctuary. Set up your Mammet Sweatshops that take about 5 minutes a week then you pretty much do nothing and progress

Well, yes.

However...that isnt combat content. Go AFK in the middle of Ultima Thule, see how long you live.