These forums are weird

[TowaIsBestGirl]

Nice strawman you've got there.

There are people with honest critique. Then there are the people who are hecklers. The former actually have good arguments, and will engage in discussion with people they disagree with, defending their points and answering counterpoints.

The hecklers don't do that. They just call people names, berate and belittle people, often insist if you haven't cleared the latest Ultimate you can have no valid opinion, and generally are just total dicks to people. These people then get 10-20-30 likes and upvotes for low effort posts.

I make a distinction between people who have arguments and engage in discussion and those who engage in namecalling, personal attacks, and heckling those who ARE trying to.

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I can go through and dismantle the rest of your post as well, if you like, but I thought I'd start with dispelling that strawman you have. Though I do want to mention specifically this:



Have you read any of my posts where I critique or call out things I dislike about the game and offer arguments in support of those critiques as well as suggestions for solutions? I'm clearly not a "Negative Nancy", yet I've done so. You say "all the legitimate critique", meaning none at all comes from those who are not "Negative Nancies". So can you tell me which of my critiques was illegitimate and why it isn't legitimate?

...or did you just pull that out of your keister and not think you'd be challenged on it?

People who want to be mad and salty also want the illusion that they are an unchallenged majority. Many also want to bring other people down to their level to join them - "Misery loves company...even if it has to make it." This, they think, improves their chances of getting the changes they want. It also means they will attack and attempt to run off or silence dissenting voices, since that breaks the illusion that their positions are universal and unchallenged, and those voices of dissent would imply they need to compromise and reach neutral ground with those they disagree with, something they very much don't want to do.

So they get into personal attacks to try and drive off those people and/or silence them. Ironically, these are the same people that will defend their toxicity as "well, we've just been ignored and silenced, so that makes what we're doing understandable and okay".

Well, I'd start with this part of your previous post in particular. The one I specifically outlined in my previous post, and the part you seemed to have omitted. How odd. What you are doing, is raising yourself up on a pedestal of innocence while providing no proof as to why you deserve to stand upon it. In the very same post, you denounce wholesale all those who disagree with you as mere hecklers who wish only to commit to various rows. This is hardly behavior worthy of praise or admiration, and something I've noticed is rather prevalent around here.

Rest assured in the fact that I'm not calling you specifically out for this. Rather, this is an unworthy behavior shared by others not you and I'm issuing a call to be better. An equal one, mind. I'm not interested in taking sides, but I've definitely noticed which posters are seemingly vile villains and which are precursory exonerates is often very particular and selective.