Samurai

[Valence]

Skill issue. You know a samurai is in the area you're placing AOE down on. Even more reason to be WATCHING FOR CHITEN if you have high BH. I have no sympathy for you losing BH to Sam players. You can just as easily get nuked by a MCH, or a MNK, or a NIN. If you can't pay attention to the Samurai's around you then you deserve that KO.

I need advice on how to track those samurais in FLs, especially before they can all be marked, but even in general.

[Archeron]

I need advice on how to track those samurais in FLs, especially before they can all be marked, but even in general.

This one is a real shocker, but they have a name above their heads, it says "Samurai." When you click the "Samurai" you can see if they have "Chiten" up as a buff, and then NOT ATTACK THEM. Or you can keep track of which samurais have used their LB's since there usually aren't that many in a front lines anyway (15 if you're lucky, including ones on your team.) Or stay away from your clustered allies so you don't die from accidental Samurai AOE, or back out of range of them so they can't hit you with it?

Anyone getting hit by Chiten + LB deserves the KO. Theres literally no excuse, not in FL, not in RW, not in CC. Lets not forget that it doesn't even OHKO people with shields up, and they have to cast it within 2 seconds of someone *getting* chiten. I've never had problems dying to Samurai and losing BH as ranged,melee, or as a healer. Its time people leave samurai alone.

[fantasiaaddict]

I think this is what you would call a skill issue.

[Elfidan]

Kind of a moot point. There was already a Mega thread about this, and Samurai can be great without it's LB it just takes more than other jobs to be great. In all honesty I still think Katana mage is just as much of a mistake as Bow mage was in pve back in the day.

[Kansene]

There was already a Mega thread about this

With the same crew coming in to comment, at that.
This horse died a long time ago, yet we return to give it a beating.

[Valence]

CC has counter tools to keep track of samurais with charged LB on the party list. AoE can still fuck you up real bad when you're playing an AoE job though, but otherwise it's manageable without much issue (unless the shitty tab targeting really wants you dead in the heat of the moment).

FLs is problematic in that you cannot reliably track samurais (marks help somewhat, but then it becomes actually funky when you notice that every time you're trying to AoE the enemy, there is at least one SAM in the middle lol), and AoE application is even more important in that mode. If you have a personal shield, try to keep it up as much as possible when you're applying damage I guess, even though that's a luxury not every job has going for them.

[Sinstrel]

It's the Machinist chainsaw ability that is the main culprit in my opinion. Especially in higher ranking Crystal Conflict matches where 1 mistake will likely snowball into a loss. Imagine playing perfectly all game, and then getting chainsawed at a critical juncture, allowing the enemy team to snowball a win. Purely based off of an RNG instakill. Do better SE.

[Sinstrel]

And I guess Yoshi read my comment because chainsaw has been removed, lol.

[Mahimahi]

Once you know what's going on in CC at least you always know to check the party list whenever you're up against a SAM. Some people even throw the avoid sign on them.

But one of my favourite things to do is to bait the SAM into just killing me, leaving the SAM for the 2 or 3 other people safely approaching behind me.

[PotatoTree]

1. who actually cares about FL balance?

2. in cc it's one of the worst LBs, basically just a newb trap. Good against casuals but horrible against anyone who knows how to play.

3. use your shields and bait it, and even if you don't have shields if it solo kills you're still ahead cause that sam could have been a mnk player instead doing twice the mnk lb kills a match

Any lb that depends on the enemy team messing up is bad, because eventually players get good enough to not make a mistake and it becomes useless.