Healer Suggestions Megathread

[rawker]

I honestly think they could fix it (and SMN) by introducing a new ability that aspects your summon, doesn't have to remove them from the field, just a twinkle and they change to the other model. Like 'Aspect: Eos', 'Aspect: Selene', 'Aspect: Seraph', then you just give SCH 2 stacks of Rouse and give SMN Enkindle, Rouse will make the fairy do their signature thing, maybe Eos (Fey Blessing), Selene (some new shield ability) and Seraph (Consolation).

Then they can do the same thing for SMN with 'Aspect: Ruby', 'Aspect: Topaz' and 'Aspect: Emerald', the Carbuncle just changes colours and you can Enkindle it for Ifrit's, Titan's and Garuda's ultimates.

This. Tanks used to stance dance... heck even healers to some extent (Cleric Stance). As we speak, some abilities already share a slot depending on the player's state. Why can't this be done with pets. Also for SMN, let Carbuncle attack. Have 1 or 2 abilities we can weave plus auto-attacks to it.

[Mayhemmer]

I honestly think they could fix it (and SMN) by introducing a new ability that aspects your summon, doesn't have to remove them from the field, just a twinkle and they change to the other model. Like 'Aspect: Eos', 'Aspect: Selene', 'Aspect: Seraph', then you just give SCH 2 stacks of Rouse and give SMN Enkindle, Rouse will make the fairy do their signature thing, maybe Eos (Fey Blessing), Selene (some new shield ability) and Seraph (Consolation).

Then they can do the same thing for SMN with 'Aspect: Ruby', 'Aspect: Topaz' and 'Aspect: Emerald', the Carbuncle just changes colours and you can Enkindle it for Ifrit's, Titan's and Garuda's ultimates.

I feel like this would certainly be possible, and I'd prefer it to how Seraph is currently summoned. Being able to swap faeries on the fly like that would be nice, and could potentially even make use of the fae gauge because god knows it needs it. It would also incidentally fix the small-yet-annoying issue of your faerie forgetting it's placed position after Seraph expires.

[rawker]

This seems like the best place to bring this up. I think the low level experience really needs to be fixed. I think low level dungeons should be easier than higher level dungeons but the difficulty currently is reversed. I believe fixing this would encourage more new players to feel comfortable playing healers.

Stone Vigil

I’ve had two runs of stone vigil where I have had a wipe recently. The first time was my fault because I played like I would at max level, I used a ruin when the tank was somewhat healthy, only to watch him drop before my next adlo finished casting. The second was the tank accidentally dropping stance, causing a DPS to die. In both of these cases, a single ress led to OOMing. The problem here is that stone vigil makes you spam Adlo (which costs 1k MP), while MP regen and healing resources are tied to aetherflow, which unlocks right after stone vigil. At higher levels you barely use heals that cost MP.

Autumn Vale

This didn’t lead to a wipe, but it was just bizarre that WHM didn’t have medica 2 for this dungeon.

While I would like all healing to be reworked, if it’s supposed to be this way, then I think at lower levels healers shouldn’t have to rely on heals that are harder to use (cast times, MP costs). It would be a good idea to introduce important job mechanics early on (like aetherflow or lilies with maybe just 1-2 stack per minute at low levels).

The opposite can also be said on SCH at lower level dungeons where Carbuncle can solo heal the entire dungeon.

[rawker]

True, but it’s at least consistent with high levels: rely on your fairy to heal a fair bit, and spend most of your time DPSing. It’s almost absurd on sage though, put on Kardia, there’s no DoT, just press Dosis and slide cast through the entire dungeon.

Well.. it's a design problem to be honest. If only Eukrasia only affect SGE spells at specific levels, rather than all upon unlock, then we can have low level Eukrasian Dosis.

[Nizzi]

The problem here is that stone vigil makes you spam Adlo (which costs 1k MP), while MP regen and healing resources are tied to aetherflow, which unlocks right after stone vigil. At higher levels you barely use heals that cost MP.

While I would like all healing to be reworked, if it’s supposed to be this way, then I think at lower levels healers shouldn’t have to rely on heals that are harder to use (cast times, MP costs). It would be a good idea to introduce important job mechanics early on (like aetherflow or lilies with maybe just 1-2 stack per minute at low levels).

Sadly, this is how Scholar actually used to work; you unlocked Aetherflow at Level 6 along with Energy Drain, and you had a trait called Aetherdam that would add more stacks to your Aetherflow as you leveled, capping out at 3 stacks at level 40. It's just another issue with the ShB SCH gutting, it completely removed SCH's ability to manage its MP where it was previously able to for some reason, leading SCH to just awkwardly unlock 3 buttons at level 45 because they decided it didn't make any sense for SCH to have Aetherflow before it had any Aetherflow heals when they removed Energy Drain at ShB launch.

It is mildly amusing to me that for a lot of SCH problems the solution seems to be "make it work the way it used to" rather than coming up with new solutions lol

[rawker]

Sadly, this is how Scholar actually used to work; you unlocked Aetherflow at Level 6 along with Energy Drain, and you had a trait called Aetherdam that would add more stacks to your Aetherflow as you leveled, capping out at 3 stacks at level 40. It's just another issue with the ShB SCH gutting, it completely removed SCH's ability to manage its MP where it was previously able to for some reason, leading SCH to just awkwardly unlock 3 buttons at level 45 because they decided it didn't make any sense for SCH to have Aetherflow before it had any Aetherflow heals when they removed Energy Drain at ShB launch.

It is mildly amusing to me that for a lot of SCH problems the solution seems to be "make it work the way it used to" rather than coming up with new solutions lol

If my memory serves me right, SCHs used to have access to Rouse at around Stone Vigil level range so it is not that hard to heal as SCH.

Edit.. Pretty close... oh well.. at least we only had to wait 1 level to get Rouse back then.


This was at a point where Rousing your pet does comparative or better healing than Physick and you can place it on a macro so that you apply Addlo and Embrace on the same target.

[OliviaLugria]

My memory is hazy for stormblood, but eos handled everything till sunken temple at least

[ty_taurus]

If my memory serves me right, SCHs used to have access to Rouse at around Stone Vigil level range so it is not that hard to heal as SCH.

Edit.. Pretty close... oh well.. at least we only had to wait 1 level to get Rouse back then.


This was at a point where Rousing your pet does comparative or better healing than Physick and you can place it on a macro so that you apply Addlo and Embrace on the same target.

What a strange change to Rouse by the way. I don't remember that at all, but why was immunity to Paralysis and Disease on your pet something that warranted a change?