Did Zenos ruin Endwalker

[Sir_Tonberry]

I didn't like Zenos being such a major part of EW and it's even more frustrating that they decided to give him a constant post death presence through Zero making frequent comparisons between Zenos and the WOL. it' like dating someone who won't shut up about their ex. What's their obsession with this character?

[Amenara]

I think Metion being shoehorned into the story at the last minute was worse than Zenos ever was. I really wish he had remained dead in Stormblood however I can see his overall purpose as the WoL's foil. He had a little bit of growth in EW which was good but I don't really think the story needed him for it to be told as it was.

[Gemina]

That doesnt mean you should literally encourage players to play with NPC's instead of actual humans in a facebook post about the upcoming patch

Perhaps. The game itself encourages it due to how heavily involved the NPCs are in the story. Take Troja for example, and how odd it would for Varshahn to not be part of the group. However, I do wish the trust system allowed for a buddy or two, and it just fills in the gaps.

[Derio]

Yes Zenos should have died midway expansion and we should have fought a proper version of Zodiark

[IkaraGreydancer]

Yes Zenos should have died midway expansion and we should have fought a proper version of Zodiark

A "proper" Zodiark fight would never happen. Did yall forget his power was split or something? The story is very clear on this.

Also how exactly should Zenos have died? Who would've beaten him? And with his departure how would we be able to chase The Endsinger?

[Zanarkand-Ronso]

Yes Zenos should have died midway expansion and we should have fought a proper version of Zodiark

Better idea....Zodiark was the Final Boss and at Full power in Vanilla Endwalker in the 1st arc. With Fandaniels big Super secret cool plan being the plot and being further explored in the 2nd arc
Us Killing Zodiark so early and not even at full power after being all hyped up for several years actually hurt the game abit....even if Fandaniels big twist was kind of cool and fun....we were still robed of several years of buildup....Zenos still existing has no effect on that.

A "proper" Zodiark fight would never happen. Did yall forget his power was split or something? The story is very clear on this.

Honestly it could have happened....but only if Endwalker was pushed back 10 years, and if the Ascians succeeded in Joining the other worlds.
Man imagine the story if we constantly failed.

[Boblawblah]

Better idea....Zodiark was the Final Boss and at Full power in Vanilla Endwalker in the 1st arc. With Fandaniels big Super secret cool plan being the plot and being further explored in the 2nd arc
Us Killing Zodiark so early and not even at full power after being all hyped up for several years actually hurt the game abit....even if Fandaniels big twist was kind of cool and fun....we were still robed of several years of buildup....Zenos still existing has no effect on that.



Honestly it could have happened....but only if Endwalker was pushed back 10 years, and if the Ascians succeeded in Joining the other worlds.
Man imagine the story if we constantly failed.

10 more years of Ascians..no thank you lol. Can you imagine? Every Scion would have a turn at pretending to be in league with them.

[IkaraGreydancer]

Better idea....Zodiark was the Final Boss and at Full power in Vanilla Endwalker in the 1st arc. With Fandaniels big Super secret cool plan being the plot and being further explored in the 2nd arc
Us Killing Zodiark so early and not even at full power after being all hyped up for several years actually hurt the game abit....even if Fandaniels big twist was kind of cool and fun....we were still robed of several years of buildup....Zenos still existing has no effect on that.



Honestly it could have happened....but only if Endwalker was pushed back 10 years, and if the Ascians succeeded in Joining the other worlds.
Man imagine the story if we constantly failed.

Don't think I'm trying to play 5 expansions that end with us failing. So I'd still just say a full Power Zodi ain't possible lol.
I'd also say a Zodi final boss was/is was to predictable. I much prefer how they subverted expectations with him

[Iyrnthota]

I kinda liked Zenos as a part of the story tbh. Like a kind of sociopathic version of you.

I get why other might not have liked it, but personally I thought him quite fun.

[Jamini]

Literally what is the point of him existing

Yep.

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