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    Player SassyAssassin's Avatar
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    A ladybug ate my lettuce so now Im at war
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  2. #42
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    You should not consider virtual animals to be truly alive. Ergo, you will not be guilty of murder if you kill them.
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  3. #43
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    There are enough vegeables and nuts in Eorzea to be vegan. C’mon. Even I know that. Heck there is MAGIC to whip up that tofu!
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    Quote Originally Posted by AngelCheese77 View Post
    There are enough vegeables and nuts in Eorzea to be vegan. C’mon. Even I know that. Heck there is MAGIC to whip up that tofu!
    You're referring to a vegan diet, the OP is referring to a vegan lifestyle (not harming ANY animals). Like pacifism but includes animals too.
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  5. #45
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jonnycbad View Post
    You're referring to a vegan diet, the OP is referring to a vegan lifestyle (not harming ANY animals). Like pacifism but includes animals too.
    Yeah, but Garleans are animals too and he's ok with killing them, so as a surprise to nobody, trollmenII is a hypocrite. More like some twisted anti-pacifism.
    Next he'll say he's only ok with killing AND eating Garleans specifically. After that it's time for a crusade.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TitanMenII View Post
    No need for the derision. And veganism isn't a hobby, it's an ethical way of life.
    It's a way of LIFE and this is a video game.

    Go play Farming Simulator if you don't wanna kill stuff.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jonnycbad View Post
    You should not consider virtual animals to be truly alive. Ergo, you will not be guilty of murder if you kill them.
    We found Emmet Selch, exact same logic used.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ath192 View Post
    We found Emmet Selch, exact same logic used.
    Oh no, don't go there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TitanMenII View Post
    What I wish for the developers to do is to change the enemy type on early healer role quests from animals like squirrels or ladybugs to Garlean soldiers or some other type of enemy like that. This would help vegan players be able to play through the story without going against their conscience.
    Waitwaitwaitwait...

    ...so killing PEOPLE is not against your conscience? You don't mind killing HUMANS left and right, have no problem with that at all? Am I understanding this right? Mass murder is fine with you, but god forbid you step on a ladybug or cut down a tree? (Well, ambulatory tree that may be carnivorous, but same thing)

    I find that...kind of shocking, honestly.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lunaxia View Post
    For the love of god man, get a hobby.
    Also this.

    OP, you post about so many things like this here. Maybe you are a genuinely hyper-far-left ideologue - such people do exist - instead of a troll. But for the love of all that's holy and unholy, these threads are just ridiculous to most everyone. Perhaps you genuinely think they aren't and have genuine concerns, but it comes across to most people as borderline insane and to many as impossible to be genuine. It's a videogame, not real life.

    EDIT:

    Quote Originally Posted by DayHealer View Post
    Does people even eat ladybugs or squirrels? Idk if I wanna hear the answer tbh
    The irony here is that one of the proposals to end world hunger AND reduce greenhouse emissions from farming beef and poultry that is being pushed by the big worldwide political organizations is eating bugs. Something about grasshoppers serving dietary protein needs. And these were the same orgs and people pushing veganisms a few decades ago. It's basically taking concerns about environmentalism and shoehorning into some kind of weird Gaia Cult but without telling anyone and making scientific sounding arguments to mask what is effectively a religion.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jonnycbad View Post
    You're referring to a vegan diet, the OP is referring to a vegan lifestyle (not harming ANY animals). Like pacifism but includes animals too.
    That MIGHT be true...if OP didn't say he was okay with killing Garlean soldiers, which is definitely NOT pacifism.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ath192 View Post
    We found Emmet Selch, exact same logic used.
    I think that was the point/joke.

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    OP:

    Just don't eat any in-game food with meat in it. Vegan problem solved. You say other people are meat-eaters, but I would suspect there are few cannibals among FFXIV's playerbase. The non-cannibals kill Garlean soldiers all the time and aren't morally conflicted. Just pretend the ladybug was "Comin' right at us!" and it's fine.
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    Last edited by Renathras; 05-18-2023 at 02:54 AM. Reason: Marked with EDIT

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    I give up with these forums, they're clearly useless if People like Titanman can run rampant with countless amounts of obvious bait threads. What are the mods doing? Anything?
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