What is the point of arguing whether having less grind or more grind is good design?

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I too wish people would put more thought into how much fun content is to do and less into demanding relics to be grindier. Unfortunately we are talking about an MMO and many of its players do not actually know what they find fun so if they dont have the game to tell them what to do they are suddenly dazed and confused.

And I wish people would just leave the relic alone and do the content they think is fun for them instead.

Everyone accepts that the savage and ultimate weapons is not for them when they don't like raiding, but the grinding related weapon has to be available for everyone? Especially when it is just tomestones and no actual new content had to be developed? Just give me my "grinding old content" relic and let them develop new, fun content which you and me can enjoy on top of it.