Crystalline Conflict Party (with Friends) Request:

[Phylecia]

I'd like to put out that, overall, CC is a very fun PvP format; I love it!

BUT...

It goes from being, what would be, a 10/10 experience to like... 6/10 when I'm online and I'll have say 2~3 friends pop-on and we can't play it together.

I KNOW...

If we want to find a 4th~5th person, then go in finder, try to find another group of 5, just like us. We then, after ideally not too many hours, will get to do the thing until people need to dip-out/leave.

^^^ BUT this example is exactly why we don't, like the game has a perfectly good awesome system that you can queue for doing "the thing" you want to do.

It doesn't need to be ranked, like just being causal; hell you could even have no reward (lets be honest, the destination is the journey; rewards are meh) Let us, (let ME) queue with a friend or two into a CC matches!

How to do it:
Make it it's own queue type--anyone queuing in, that queue, will know they could be getting matched against random pair-ings of 2-3s making teams of 5.

Make it none ranked, it's just for marks and fun. I'D play the hell out of this!!!

I have friends that say, in honesty, if it were a simple queue and we'd just play the game together they'd gladly do it; like the only thing making it not a thing is just not being given the option to queue in, in the first place and having to do way to much time peopling (messaging/shouting) really makes a 4~5 hour night go by fast with no actual fun happening many times; I hate that.

MOST people just wanna queue, get snack, use the bathroom etc (while they wait) no one wants to sit in PF and shout and message/send tells to people for, potentially, hours on the 'maybe chance' that fun might happen.

I'm asking, you, SE, to REALLY LOOK and think just how small of an ask this is and how AMAZING this game type would be if you had such a simple thing added in.

Anyone reading this, please up-vote if you agree, and provide feedback if I'm missing anything. I can't imagine any negatives as it's a choice to queue into it being it's own queue type; IF there is though definitely share how to make this idea even better.

Please and Thanks You!

[Ransu]

Ya its really frustrating. Casuals need to at least allow duos or something.

[Reinhardt_Azureheim]

100% agreed, though Id argue only that it should become the Casual Mode's standard feature rather than a separate queue. Casual is not important enough in my eye where having highly balances matches is a must and wouldnt split the playerpools.

Yes for duo queues, maybe even trio. Let people play and learn together.

[Archeron]

Absolutely no. We don't need premade parties in casual or CC in general. All that will happen is that CC will transform into a seal clubbinig easy series XP farm for the top 10% of pvp players. Form a PvP team or dont play the mode at all. It's already bad enough that you can get a 4 man premade in frontlines.

[Ransu]

Absolutely no. We don't need premade parties in casual or CC in general. All that will happen is that CC will transform into a seal clubbinig easy series XP farm for the top 10% of pvp players. Form a PvP team or dont play the mode at all. It's already bad enough that you can get a 4 man premade in frontlines.

Oh no, 4 man premade in a mode with 72 players....the horror. Allowing 2 or 3 people to play together in CASUALS is not the end of the world. I could understand the pushback in ranked, but casuals is casuals.

[Mistress_Irika]

Absolutely no. We don't need premade parties in casual or CC in general. All that will happen is that CC will transform into a seal clubbinig easy series XP farm for the top 10% of pvp players. Form a PvP team or dont play the mode at all. It's already bad enough that you can get a 4 man premade in frontlines.

People will choose the latter. Kid you not. Poor suggestion. It's a useless option for those that don't have a big group. It's already difficult enough to try and get 8 people together for a raid. What casual is going to try to wait for 10 people? On top of this, you cannot queue undersized for customs. That first option only benefits those that are either in discord groups and/or are participating in tournaments, and even then customs is a lot more strict than anything pve related is.

I'm not going to be surprised if frontlines ends up going full solo q one day. Premades went from 8 to 4, and they're still being hated on to this day. Don't exactly see the point of this, especially when majority of players don't care about results in the first place.

[Archeron]

People will choose the latter. Kid you not. Poor suggestion. It's a useless option for those that don't have a big group. It's already difficult enough to try and get 8 people together for a raid. What casual is going to try to wait for 10 people? On top of this, you cannot queue undersized for customs. That first option only benefits those that are either in discord groups and/or are participating in tournaments, and even then customs is a lot more strict than anything pve related is.

I'm not going to be surprised if frontlines ends up going full solo q one day. Premades went from 8 to 4, and they're still being hated on to this day. Don't exactly see the point of this, especially when majority of players don't care about results in the first place.

Are you actually serious? Just think about it. No premades = Equal chance of winning or losing. Premades = Majority of the time as a solo queuer you get stomped. Is that fun? Does it sound like fun if you were a solo queuer being put up against premade after premade in casuals? No. It's not fun. Get more friends and form a PvP team, and keep your premades out of CC, casual or ranked.

Oh no, 4 man premade in a mode with 72 players....the horror. Allowing 2 or 3 people to play together in CASUALS is not the end of the world. I could understand the pushback in ranked, but casuals is casuals.

Yep lets just introduce disasterous changes because its a casual mode and nobody cares. No thank you. Plenty of people prefer casual CC over ranked sweatiness and DO NOT want to deal with premades - And shouldn't have to. I don't care about the minority of people with 2 friends that like PvP, go do frontlines together.

[Mistress_Irika]

Are you actually serious? Just think about it. No premades = Equal chance of winning or losing. Premades = Majority of the time as a solo queuer you get stomped. Is that fun? Does it sound like fun if you were a solo queuer being put up against premade after premade in casuals? No. It's not fun. Get more friends and form a PvP team, and keep your premades out of CC, casual or ranked.

I'm actually dead serious about this. CC is just about the best fair mode if you factor out wintrading. Yet, majority of people back wants a free crystal rank handout because of RNG existing within their teammates. Number one reasoning that was being used by the way. Pure solo queue. Fun for you and other solo queuers? Yes. However, those that fought against the idea of demotion existing more than likely experience headaches dealing with their teammates.

You can get rid of premades entirely for frontlines, and it'll be just the same. RNG teammates and games that will quickly turn stale the longer you invest into frontlines. Only difference is that camping by objectives and committing suicide for them will become the true norm. In other words, you're just replacing the reason for some folks getting headaches. (Not like some folks is already going through this...)

I'll stop there. If you really want to know how folks feel about playing with at least one other person someone can throw a poll together. I'll just watch from afar to see if yet another calamity comes for pvp.

[Valence]

The real premade nightmare was when full parties were allowed in frontlines, but it took the cake when people could also choose which GC team they queued for, where you ended with maelstrom constantly capped with premades. That was seal clubbing, I remember it, and it was absolutely awful.

I have yet to see a real issue with current light party premades that can't even choose their team in FLs. Do those people play well together and benefit from pocket healers and/or good LB synergy? Sure. Do they really ruin or change anything in FLs? Hardly so, can't say I have witnessed this to disastrous results. The problem is battle highs and how killing them don't reward near enough points, or just that BH without vulnerability debuffs is even a thing to begin with.

Casual CC is already an imbalanced mess, where I doubt that duo premades would really change anything but bring more chaos into chaos. I won't disagree that having two good players together that know when to synergize LBs wouldn't be already good advantage, but I'm not sure it would remove the fun out of the mode. Is this such a problem when you play with your friends in MOBAs or whatever other competitive online game with solo queue anyway?

[ThaCa]

Having party queue for Casual would be great. If people don't want to face stacks they can go play low level Ranked that has more even matches than Casual in first place.