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    The Purpose of the Healer Role Subforum

    As stated in the sticky at the top: https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...ealer-Roles%21

    Welcome to Forum: Healer Roles!

    The purpose of this forum is for players to hold discussions on Healer roles and its tactics with other players.

    Please take time to read the following rules and the FINAL FANTASY XIV Forum Guidelines(North America/UK) before you post or start a discussion.

    General Forum Rules:
    Please refer to the following thread: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/63104
    I guess it's proof that neither Devs nor Mods come here, considering 99% of the posts here are...not those things, interestingly enough.

    ...not that anyone should doubt at this point that mods don't come here, lol
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    Please, point which of the following posts its not about "Healer roles and its tactics", because I only see 2 and are started by the same person
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    Quote Originally Posted by IttyBitty View Post
    Emnity management is a group responsibility, HP management is a group responsibility, Mitigation is a group responsibility ,DPS is a group responsibility
    Anybody saying "I only want to <x>" just tells me they are lazy and selfish.

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    Yeah, I saw that. All I can think of is cancer and essays.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Renathras View Post
    As stated in the sticky at the top: https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...ealer-Roles%21



    I guess it's proof that neither Devs nor Mods come here, considering 99% of the posts here are...not those things, interestingly enough.

    ...not that anyone should doubt at this point that mods don't come here, lol
    I'm going to have to ask you to make your subtext a bit bigger because I cannot read it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WaxSw View Post
    Please, point which of the following posts its not about "Healer roles and its tactics", because I only see 2 and are started by the same person
    Nice attempted gotcha, but "Healer roles and its tactics".

    8 of those are about changing Healer Jobs and proposals to that end, not about the role or tactics.
    2 are about changes that should be implemented in-game to help with players learning the role (so debatably on topic)
    2 are about the history of the Healer role in context of fights (one specifically about the tactics used) (so debatably on topic)
    1 is asking for tactics to deal with an encounter (so on topic)
    1 is a meta discussion about the Healer role in the context of party composition (so debatably on topic)
    1 is gathering (or attempting to gather) positive feedback about the role in general (so on topic)
    1 is about the point of the subform per the sticky (so debatably on topic since the sticky can't be replied to but should be considered valid to discuss)

    Oh, and the bulk of the ones that are on or debatably on topic were started by the same person, yes.

    (I could mention something here about my post in General applying, but...I'll let it slide.)
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    Last edited by Renathras; 05-14-2023 at 03:41 AM. Reason: EDIT for length

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    Quote Originally Posted by Renathras View Post
    Nice attempted gotcha, but "Healer roles and its tactics".

    8 of those are about changing Healer Jobs and proposals to that end, not about the role or tactics.
    That is a talk about the role since the jobs are an extension of it. These are probably the most on topic of all as they serve the main pupose of the forums. In fact quoting the game itself

    Proposals (or in other words, suggestions) are on topic

    2 are about changes that should be implemented in-game to help with players learning the role (so debatably on topic)
    On topic

    2 are about the history of the Healer role in context of fights (one specifically about the tactics used) (so debatably on topic)
    Less focused but on topic

    1 is asking for tactics to deal with an encounter (so on topic)
    Indeed

    1 is a meta discussion about the Healer role in the context of party composition (so debatably on topic)
    META=Most Effective Tactic Avaliable, its on topic

    1 is gathering (or attempting to gather) positive feedback about the role in general (so on topic)
    Yes, the focus is the healers after all

    1 is about the point of the subform per the sticky (so debatably on topic since the sticky can't be replied to but should be considered valid to discuss)
    More debatably but, ok let say its on topic.

    So... where is the 99% of the posts that are not on topic?
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    Quote Originally Posted by IttyBitty View Post
    Emnity management is a group responsibility, HP management is a group responsibility, Mitigation is a group responsibility ,DPS is a group responsibility
    Anybody saying "I only want to <x>" just tells me they are lazy and selfish.

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    I don't see "Renathras's personal echo chamber" in that description.

    People in here disagree with you on a lot of healer design topics. All of your Gish Galloping, topic-swapping, and attempts to twist semantics into pretzels to make yourself correct by default (like this thread, imagine that! People disagree with you, so now you've decided that threads talking about healer class design changes don't actually fit in the subforum's precisely defined topic definition, haha so there, you win.) doesn't change that. Falling back on passive-aggressively insulting people here, telling people who have healed for a DECADE now that they're "actually supports" and should go play Bard or something, then recoiling and running off to General Discussion and Reddit and wailing that this place is "toxic" when people take exception to your dictating what THEIR preferred role is, is also not "healer discussion".

    Cut it out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Semirhage View Post
    People in here disagree with you on a lot of healer design topics.
    Your word salad rant aside, that's for a different reason.

    "YOU KNOW WHAT? YES!"

    Also MY GOD are you a 1950s drive in theater? Because the amount of projection in that post is EPIC.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WaxSw View Post
    So... where is the 99% of the posts that are not on topic?
    Quick question for you:

    Do you know the difference between "posts" and "threads", by chance?
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    Last edited by Renathras; 05-14-2023 at 05:30 AM. Reason: Marked with EDIT

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    Quote Originally Posted by Renathras View Post
    Quick question for you:

    Do you know the difference between "posts" and "threads", by chance?
    Yes, I use the threads because they are also posts made by the players and its a more neutral way to showcase that the "99%" is plain false, you could in fact open almost any thread in the healer forum and you'll find much more on topic arguments that things out of topic (which usually happen because misinformation)

    Now I repeat my question, where is that 99% of out of topic posts?
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    Quote Originally Posted by IttyBitty View Post
    Emnity management is a group responsibility, HP management is a group responsibility, Mitigation is a group responsibility ,DPS is a group responsibility
    Anybody saying "I only want to <x>" just tells me they are lazy and selfish.

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    Lil bro really got tired of farming likes on general discussion and came back to the healer forums to continue getting folded like yesterday's laundry.

    Wild.
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