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    Quote Originally Posted by RajNish View Post
    It just got interesting. What do you do when someone hunts you from match to match. And if you hunt someone, then for what reason?
    Sometimes you get someone with a hateboner for you, either because they dead set decided that they need to suppress your role at all costs (like if you're playing certain ranged jobs), or either because you pissed them off enough. In both cases you need to be smarter than them and find their weakness or the trick that works against them. Every time that kind of player becomes extremely predictable as soon as they come for you, and after dealing with broken bones once or twice you eventually learn how to deflect their one trick pony.

    ( caveat: this doesn't work against monks as squishy ranged players unless you have a pocket healer )
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valence View Post
    Sometimes you get someone with a hateboner for you, either because they dead set decided that they need to suppress your role at all costs (like if you're playing certain ranged jobs), or either because you pissed them off enough. In both cases you need to be smarter than them and find their weakness or the trick that works against them. Every time that kind of player becomes extremely predictable as soon as they come for you, and after dealing with broken bones once or twice you eventually learn how to deflect their one trick pony.

    ( caveat: this doesn't work against monks as squishy ranged players unless you have a pocket healer )
    Monk is a problem when they have the LB ready. Often they hunt with a ready LB, usually I kite them, get them into the crowd of allies, get my LB and finish them off in the back. But it is very distracting from the main work. Because sometimes the LB, which should fall on a priority target, has to be spent on them. In addition, team members often do not react to an unfinished target and simply let them escape, focusing on a tank, for example.

    In fact, it is always strange for me to see such manifestations, especially when hunters have more serious goals, and some of them endanger the entire team. I'm still looking for some reasonable explanation for this...
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    Quote Originally Posted by RajNish View Post
    Monk is a problem when they have the LB ready. Often they hunt with a ready LB, usually I kite them, get them into the crowd of allies, get my LB and finish them off in the back. But it is very distracting from the main work. Because sometimes the LB, which should fall on a priority target, has to be spent on them. In addition, team members often do not react to an unfinished target and simply let them escape, focusing on a tank, for example.

    In fact, it is always strange for me to see such manifestations, especially when hunters have more serious goals, and some of them endanger the entire team. I'm still looking for some reasonable explanation for this...
    Good monks usually pop out of nowhere with the LB and have been watching you to pick you off without exposing themselves too much. Doing the LB trick when you're already getting pummeled is asking to die without any result and a wasted LB.

    If you play on diam/crystal usually though, I rarely see unfinished targets with low resources not being immediately focused there. Sometimes they still get away because they play it well or have good backup from allies, but hell you get focused so fast when you make yourself vulnerable at higher ranks it's ungodly.

    Quote Originally Posted by RajNish View Post
    And one more thing. What do you do when you see someone on your team being hunted? Under what circumstances do you help to be saved or leave to die? Cases of outright stupidity are not taken into account. I usually try to help if someone is targeting a second caster, ranged, or healer, unless I need to push the crystal, to protect the crystal spot or whoever is pushing it.
    People need to help. Even at crystal level people don't always do it (esp the hotshot melees that can't give a crap about their backline), and it's crippling. Helping an ally not only can suddenly punish hunters/chasers/harassers hard for being too cocky, which can result in a death and a loss for the opposing team for little gain, but it's also psychological, and on top of it throws the harasser into being confused and not sure what to do next. It deters them from further doing it, which leaves more breathing room for your ranged players and peels the raiders off their hides. Also it builds team cohesion even if just for a game only.

    The only times where I don't always do it, especially as a non healer, is when retreating and you have the whole enemy blob on your ass. Staying a little back to help somebody that's probably going to get rolled over anyway, is usually fruitless, and I've died way too many times for being too nice with that.
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    Last edited by Valence; 05-14-2023 at 06:47 PM.