Massive Trailer Storybomb: Spoilers 6.4

[Cleretic]

I think that was their point. That nobody associates Vader with the lightsaber (which he uses), but with his intense powers of the Force. Like how everybody associates Golbez with his intense magical powers, not a sword (which he's using).

Actually I do associate Darth Vader with a light saber, rather heavily. Because I grew up with Darth Vader merch, and let me tell you: it was all red, because of the light saber. Darth Vader's iconic image just has a light saber.

And that's fine, because despite that the image of Darth Vader is also not just being a swordsman, we know very well that he's capable of other things. (Mostly choking people one-handed, he does that a lot.) A character is not merely defined by their weapon, and Darth Vader's actually a really good example of that.

Golbez can have a sword without the sword defining him.

[Nezerius]

Golbez is Thordan.

That one caught me off guard, I would have never imagined our boy to come back, but I guess the dragon connection is there.

Safe to assume OP never played FF4. He's always had the ability to summon a shadow dragon.

[BRVV]

Safe to assume OP never played FF4. He's always had the ability to summon a shadow dragon.

So you +1 on the dragon connection being there?

They have the same combat animations and are both trial bosses

That could be a hint. Or the devs are becoming lazier. I mean it's not like the relic isn't just tomestones! (i don't want to bring up a different discussion just wanted to hint that laziness could be it with the animations)

[Nezerius]

So you +1 on the dragon connection being there?

If by "dragon connection" you mean one is able to summon a dragon, the other wanted to kill dragons, sure.

Just like Ran'jit and Estinien having a "dragon connection". Clearly Ranj'it is the First's version of Estinien!

[Cleretic]

Just like Ran'jit and Estinien having a "dragon connection". Clearly Ranj'it is the First's version of Estinien!

Actually, you might be onto something. What if we're missing a trick here?

What if Ran'jit is the First's version of Golbez?

[BRVV]

If by "dragon connection" you mean one is able to summon a dragon, the other wanted to kill dragons, sure.

Just like Ran'jit and Estinien having a "dragon connection". Clearly Ranj'it is the First's version of Estinien!

Your wording was just so off. It's like if Darth Vader showed up in FFXIV and used the force & people would be like "the force exists in FFXIV!!! Is it dynamis? Ether?" And you would be: "Vader ALSO had the force in SW. #smh"

Makes it sound that everything from everything that came from "inspirations" (stolen from mostly other FFs) should be ignored. If so should we ignore most of the story?

[Nezerius]

What if Ran'jit is the First's version of Golbez?

Everyone knows the First's version of Golbez is none other than Granson, from the role quests. They both use greatswords.

Your wording was just so off. It's like if Darth Vader showed up in FFXIV and used the force & people would be like "the force exists in FFXIV!!! Is it dynamis? Ether?" And you would be: "Vader ALSO had the force in SW. #smh"

Makes it sound that everything from everything that came from "inspirations" (stolen from mostly other FFs) should be ignored. If so should we ignore most of the story?

OP's wording makes it sound like he made a groundbreaking discovery about Golbez's shadow dragon. I'm just pointing out that's been his character thing since before Thordan even existed.
Although your post reminded me to track down those Eorzean midi-chlorians.

[Cleretic]

Worth noting that some of the difference between that Bahamut and the Bahamut we've seen comes from Allagan augmentation/mutilation; if you look closely the 'horns' on Primal Bahamut are actually Allagan tech, with the real ones having been torn off.

Otherwise, I find it interesting to consider that Primal Bahamut almost seems to be perspective-skewed compared to the original. Like, he's how someone would've drawn Real Bahamut from memory if they'd mainly seen him from front-on and probably lower angles; overemphasising the chest because that's the thing that dominated their view. Which would make a lot of sense, since Bahamut was a big guy and the bulk of the dragons summoning him were... rather smaller.

[rxantos]

Golbez should have never had a sword to begin with.
Is one of the few pure magic characters with full armor. BUT NO OTHER WEAPON. Just magic.
Once again Square failed on their own lore.

[Kesey]

Golbez should have never had a sword to begin with.
Is one of the few pure magic characters with full armor. BUT NO OTHER WEAPON. Just magic.
Once again Square failed on their own lore.

I'm guessing you didn't play FFIV The Afteryears? Slight spoiler for an old game, but Golbez joins your party and is a power mage and a tank who uses swords (he functions as a dark knight and a black mage). And in the FFIV flashbacks while Golbez the villain, he carries a sword called the "ebony blade".

So in this case they got their own lore correct.