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    Quote Originally Posted by UkcsAlias View Post
    The problem is that island sanctuaries, which could have been quite some extensive content, simply wasnt that, its extremely dull and repetetive, and features barely anything to do. Even for those who like gathering, the rewards arent even nearly worth it (effort to value conversion rate is absolutely horrible). If they involved content that required for example combat, and other special events, it could have worked. But it simply wasnt that.

    The only way IS can be revived would be if it contains content for the DoW/DoM. Even if its just special boss fights like BLU has, where later levels unlock more of these fights, it can do quite a bit. As those fights could give special rewards which then in turn can interact elsewhere (relic weapon requirement, special ingredients for certain housing items, special glams, rewards that benefit IS again to unlock more, daily/weekly challenges). But that obviously requires a massive change (which they dont seem to want to do because of ffxvi). And in the end, its probably very similar to variant dungeons anyway.

    And even then, the issue of IS is that its massively timegated instead of being actualy properly grindable content that is fun to do (instead of contant grinding for resources, things like fates are more dynamic). This timegating wouldnt be an issue if at least it didnt feel that artificial (fates can be a limitation as well, but have a more common spawn rate which allows people to do duties between them in case all of them were done).

    I think IS is the reason we are currently facing a lack of more dynamic content. And because its too DoL oriented, its not something easily changed either.

    And by now, even if they had an idea for such extensive content, im certain they will just wait for 7.1, as when 7.0 is released, all 6.x content is instantly becoming mostly obsolete as the new expansion is then where it is all at.
    It was bewildering that around the time Island Sanctuary launched there were some players who were quite opposed to including battle content for it...despite the inclusion of it taking absolutely nothing from them should they wished to continue with the rest of Island Sanctuary's activities. Naturally I support adding some fights to it, given that even games like Stardew Valley have some sort of battle component to them.

    Overall though I think that we may have been better off if Island Sanctuary was just individual outdoor housing for everyone, more customization like biomes etc rather than the stuff they added to it that in the end seems to all be accomplished by interacting with the mammets.
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    If you're expecting much from a patch LL, you're setting yourself up for disappointing, it will just be the usual faire. Anything that really matters will be coming in the LL's leading up to the next expansion, so the ones during and after fanfest.
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    .4 is going to be new savage raids, a new ex, new vasriant/criterion, and island expansion

    we already know what its going to be, savage will keep people occupied
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tizzy_Tormentor View Post
    If you're expecting much from a patch LL, you're setting yourself up for disappointing, it will just be the usual faire. Anything that really matters will be coming in the LL's leading up to the next expansion, so the ones during and after fanfest.
    I think he's planning on it - it will provide weeks of more content for posts about how disappointing the game is to him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tizzy_Tormentor View Post
    If you're expecting much from a patch LL, you're setting yourself up for disappointing, it will just be the usual faire. Anything that really matters will be coming in the LL's leading up to the next expansion, so the ones during and after fanfest.
    I am hoping for at least addressing V&C dungeons and their lack of good rewards and replay value. Also I am not sure why anyone would be saying there will be zero changes and you are setting yourself up for disappointment when last live letter for this patch gave us the news Island Sanctuary will now have outdoor furnishings available so you can customize it, which was a major complaint I saw across the internet. I am very curious if there is a change the V&C rewards structure with Mount Rokkan coming.
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    I just wanted to pause a moment to provide a list of complaints from OP just this month (May 2023), a month we are 11 days in. I probably have not picked up everything as I am not thoroughly reading, nor do I plan on going further back. It's just possibly why even if there is something of interest to be had in their message, my eyes at this point just glaze over.

    1. Estinian’s Ponytail
    2. Island Sanctuary not having battle content
    3. How SE advertises the game
    4. Chinese Magician Emote being in the SE Store
    5. Endwalker Storyline, “Worst” being the entire expansion outside Garlemald
    6. WoL being overpowered
    7. YYshtola having no personality
    8. Female characters being “slay queens!”
    9. Being stuck with certain characters in the storyline
    10. Underwhelming content rewards
    11. Lack of Content, in the generic
    12. Titania’s cosmetic outfit
    13. Devs Ignoring Feedback
    14. Combat Design & Balancing of Numbers
    15. Healer Gameplay
    16. Endwalker Relic
    17. Variant/Criterion Dungeons
    18. Ugly Allagan weapons
    19. How others spend their time in the game (ie, chat lobby)
    20. And of course….other posters on these forums who disagree with him.

    I did get a chuckle at a post of his I passed where he wondered why people think he doesn't like FFXIV.
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    Recipe for disaster.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xeronia View Post
    Also I am not sure why anyone would be saying there will be zero changes and you are setting yourself up for disappointment when last live letter for this patch gave us [changes].
    There's expecting changes, and there's expecting the extent of changes that the OP regularly requests and which amount to transforming this game into a different game entirely.

    We are not going to get the second variety of changes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    There's expecting changes, and there's expecting the extent of changes that the OP regularly requests and which amount to transforming this game into a different game entirely.

    We are not going to get the second variety of changes.
    I was about to call you out for your attempt at mischaracterizing my positions but in this instance I will concede you are correct. FFXIV prior to Endwalker was a different game entirely.

    We lost that game to loporrits, Hermes, cookie clicker zones, and other dead on arrival content. So yes I absolutely would much rather have the game we had before compared to what we have now.

    Thank you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aveyond-dreams View Post
    I was about to call you out for your attempt at mischaracterizing my positions but in this instance I will concede you are correct. FFXIV prior to Endwalker was a different game entirely.

    We lost that game to loporrits, Hermes, cookie clicker zones, and other dead on arrival content. So yes I absolutely would much rather have the game we had before compared to what we have now.

    Thank you.
    Weird. We always had cutsie tribes. Sylphs, Pixies, Namau, Moogles. They also had some roles in the MSQs.

    We also always had secondary villains ... not sure what your complaint about Hermes but I actually liked the character more than other secondary antagonists we've seen.

    Cookie cutter zones? We've had more zone variety at least environmentally than other expansions (HW/StB) where all the zones were 1 or 2 general themes. Elsewise the approach to zones is no different than the past when you claimed you liked XIV.

    Your complaints are all over the place and feel like confetti in the air.
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