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    Quote Originally Posted by aveyond-dreams View Post
    Let's not pretend that Square Enix made a game design "decision" at anywhere in their offices. It's a cost-cutting/resource-reallocation maneuver disguised in PR-speak.

    People twist their neurons and axons all around their brain to come up with a reason for why they designed content this way. Lmao. Just face the simple truth that they don't want to invest that much into FF14 because they hit decreasing marginal returns investing in FF14 beyond this bare husk of an MMO. There isn't a system design problem with FF14. There is a budget, management, and resource problem.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VelKallor View Post
    Did the intent of April 1st fly right over your head?
    To be honest that stuff enrages plenty of Hrothgar players because they give more ridiculous hair to them instead of one single Windcaller hair...
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  3. #293
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atelier-Bagur View Post
    The problem isnt the content. The problem is that these systems arent used to keep the current patch mildly busy.
    However I'm also in the mindset that the content provided in previous expansions like grinds and exploratory zones WERE NOT GOOD. If you take away the padding with the boring grinds, you'd finish the content just as quickly as what we've gotten in EW. I think people really need to accept that long repeatable grinds isnt "fun". What we need is variable forms of content that contribute to progression. The Shb relic were doing this nicely in some steps but also went overboard with padding out repeatable raid and dungeon spams for the grinds which isnt necessarily "fun" to do.
    This is a thing that FFXIV sadly never did properly (emphasis on properly), nor do I think they'll ever do. Like the reddit poster said, they stick to a working formula and it works. Which is why the philosophy "play other games" is such a hard pill to swallow to some folk who want to make FFXIV be their sole game. Nobody benefits from playing a single game in the long-term.

    its telling from the conversations I see of people playing WoW that it's just not enough retention for them to stick with the game for long.
    So many of these players rather play a recreation of a decade old version of this video game rather than the amount of content presented in this expansion because its too much. There's a reason back in SB and ShB that the majority of players disliked the exploratory zones because of the boring grinds. Why advocate to bring back these systems without doing something better for them? The grinds in classic WoW were fun because the simple journey to doing its questing, exploration and dungeon content was varied and meaningful so the grind wasnt boring, unlike the simple yet stale journey of Eureka and Bozja of just spamming the same style of activity in boring limiting zones for progression.
    Anyway I think what would be good for FFXIV with this example is to seek a middle ground with having varied systems for progression that arent just...roulettes and raids, but dont overdo it like WoW where long term players get sick of the grinds.


    I really wish these Forums could be filled with More Intelligence like this here.
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  4. #294
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    Quote Originally Posted by VelKallor View Post

    Did the intent of April 1st fly right over your head?
    What intent was that? Earless Hroths wasn't a joke if thats what you're implying, they really thought people would be okay with that, went forward with it, and took another patch just to fix that after everyone mocked them for it. Now Hroths are a patch behind Viera in catching up to Hairstyles.
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    I would like to take this time out of my night to humbly remind the lovely participants of this thread of one crucial detail of the English language. The word "fan"....... is, was, has been, and always will remain....

    ......Shorthand for "fanatic". Think on that for a spell, and maybe a Grand Wizard Revelation may come to your mind.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TowaIsBestGirl View Post
    I would like to take this time out of my night to humbly remind the lovely participants of this thread of one crucial detail of the English language. The word "fan"....... is, was, has been, and always will remain....

    ......Shorthand for "fanatic". Think on that for a spell, and maybe a Grand Wizard Revelation may come to your mind.
    Not much to think about.

    We are ALL fans of this game. Even the Negative Nannies that want to ruin your day, bash everything and call you stupid, say they are "Fans" of the game. The same way the people who have less to complain about and even White Knight or 'shill' it, are "Fans" of the game. We are all fans.
    The amount of Defending, Rationalizing, hating, critiquing, arguing, expressing joy and love for this game....are all things, from "Fans"

    And with how Passionate some of us get on Both Sides here.....that is nothing short of ""Fanatic""

    Its honestly not that deep. Its very common, and everyone displays it in a Fandom, on some level.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zanarkand-Ronso View Post
    Not much to think about.

    We are ALL fans of this game. Even the Negative Nannies that want to ruin your day, bash everything and call you stupid, say they are "Fans" of the game. The same way the people who have less to complain about and even White Knight or 'shill' it, are "Fans" of the game. We are all fans.
    The amount of Defending, Rationalizing, hating, critiquing, arguing, expressing joy and love for this game....are all things, from "Fans"

    And with how Passionate some of us get on Both Sides here.....that is nothing short of ""Fanatic""

    Its honestly not that deep. Its very common, and everyone displays it in a Fandom, on some level.
    Each and all parties possessing some dire need to reflect does not exactly retract from my point, regardless. If anything, it bolsters it yet further. I know what my flaws are, and I'm working on them. Either way, one has to wonder the precise reasoning for the invention of the shorthand.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TowaIsBestGirl View Post
    Each and all parties possessing some dire need to reflect does not exactly retract from my point,
    I dont Recall disagreeing with you.
    All I said was its not much to think about. Lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by TowaIsBestGirl View Post
    I would like to take this time out of my night to humbly remind the lovely participants of this thread of one crucial detail of the English language. The word "fan"....... is, was, has been, and always will remain....

    ......Shorthand for "fanatic". Think on that for a spell, and maybe a Grand Wizard Revelation may come to your mind.
    Since we are on the topic appropriate language, maybe we should discuss what a Grand Wizard is...
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    I think the lalafell lifter is too high
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