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    Quote Originally Posted by DivineP View Post
    Indeed they do!

    You've come and quoted me, however you have no facts to this topic other than saying 'gimme Kaiten'

    I understand your upset about a random SAM skill. Knowing how these forums are atm..

    Give it a break.
    Well at least I bring 1 topic to the thread regarding why the Live Letter should have mattered vs you bringing... Absolutely nothing cause all you're amounting to is telling others to stay silent only phrasing it differently every-time... oh while sucking up. But we don't kink shame in XIV, obviously.

    The Live Letter has amount to my expectations ( minus 1 skill obviously ). Endwalker will remain equally as boring to me, aside from Island Sanctuary cause muh Housing!! The glamours feeling copy pastes aside from 1 Shiny Katana that I will probably effortlessly get. Then criterion glamour that looks worse then everything that can be obtained through mods, which you shouldn't use obviously against TOS. Hildebrand is not for me, and yay that's it?

    But we get it? you're upset that you don't want your lovely God or company Square to take any critique. So you give it a break, about.. ugh... telling me and others to take a break? on it? ( obviously idk where we're going with this... )
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    Quote Originally Posted by CelestiCer View Post
    Well at least I bring 1 topic to the thread regarding why the Live Letter should have mattered vs you bringing... Absolutely nothing cause all you're amounting to is telling others to stay silent only phrasing it differently every-time... oh while sucking up. But we don't kink shame in XIV, obviously.

    The Live Letter has amount to my expectations ( minus 1 skill obviously ). Endwalker will remain equally as boring to me, aside from Island Sanctuary cause muh Housing!! The glamours feeling copy pastes aside from 1 Shiny Katana that I will probably effortlessly get. Then criterion glamour that looks worse then everything that can be obtained through mods, which you shouldn't use obviously against TOS. Hildebrand is not for me, and yay that's it?

    But we get it? you're upset that you don't want your lovely God or company Square to take any critique. So you give it a break, about.. ugh... telling me and others to take a break? on it? ( obviously idk where we're going with this... )
    "yeah if you stay silent surely they'll fix it and add it back" - DivineP
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    Lol.

    I lurk alot. I've seen you BEG for Kaiten.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DivineP View Post
    Indeed they do!

    You've come and quoted me, however you have no facts to this topic other than saying 'gimme Kaiten'

    I understand your upset about a random SAM skill. Knowing how these forums are atm..

    Give it a break.
    DivineP,

    I can understand your feelings all too well but I think you should let this one go because anything you say is going to be used against you. At this point, I just read it and scroll down to the next post. But I can understand that everybody has a their own picture of what how they want to their FF to be. Yes, you can be like CelestiCer wanted Kaiten back (btw you are a good SAM.....), Stormpeaks with whatever the heck they want or even Aveyond with his all of his demands and these forums was created to voice their opinions about it and we should respect them on their views about this game but in kind, they have to do the same as well. Believe me, even know that this game is fallen off alittle bit, we are fortunate and lucky to even get to 6.4 after all. Most of us didn't even know if we will get to 3.0 during those days.

    This live letter was okay, fixed a few thing and made newer glam that I can get but I think the next expansion is going to be the barometer for the next couple of years and we dont have to wait that long to find out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DivineP View Post
    I understand your upset about a random SAM skill.
    Random skill
    Random skill
    Random skill
    Random skill





    I see that SE's tactic of radio silence and ignoring feedback worked well. Now people are so uneducated that they forgot that Kaiten was just biggest outlier in the neutering of SAM.

    I guess I'm sorry for calling it "Kaiten removal" instead of more descriptive "Kaiten removal which caused Iaijutsu potency changes, and additional unwarranted changes to weaponskills, more specifically increasing potency of basic weaponskills, while nerfing potency of bigger hits, which SAM used to be known for, resulting in overall flattening of SAM's damage output, compared to high burst damage, and low damage segments meant for building resources, which caused the whole class fantasy to break apart overnight, while changing Tenka Goken and Kaeshi: Goken from conal AoE to circular AoE, which changed dynamic positioning in multi-target situations, to just merely standing in the middle of the enemies and spamming 1-2, 1-3, tenka and Kyuten, all the while implementing the hated guaranteed critical hits on 4 abilities, and that was before 6.3 guarateed hit compensation, meaning that for 9 months, SAM was benefitting the least from whole critical hit stat".

    Up to you which rolls of the tongue better.

    EDIT: Completely forgot to mention the Shinten spam and problem with Kenki utilized only by it, while we still generate same amount as we did with Kaiten, meaning that APM is still the same
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    Last edited by Deo14; 05-13-2023 at 04:08 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aveyond-dreams View Post
    Yeah at this point all that I can do is grant his wish. There's absolutely nothing for me to do in FFXIV other than taking an hour to play through Pandaemonium once it releases because you couldn't pay me enough to tolerate whatever is going on with Zero and the accursed dragons in the MSQ.

    So congratulations to them. They have made so many bad decisions this expansion that as one of their long term fans that's been mostly subbed for the better part of the last decade, I will be taking an indefinite break after May 23rd. This isn't the outcome I wanted, but it's the outcome they deserve after stacking so many mistakes on top of each other.

    You want me back? Start rebuilding my trust by making both a decent MMO and a decent RPG and then put it together. With the apparent loss in profits SE has suffered recently, FFXIV was the one ship they couldn't afford to let sink. I look forward to reading up on the state of their economics next year and seeing what an expansion's worth of content drought has done.

    I wanted so desperately to be positive about the state of things. I wanted Endwalker to be the best of the expansions of Season 1, and instead this is where we are. All while I have to tolerate people who blast me for calling for a return to form. Not like they would bat an eye if things in Endwalker were more akin to how they were in the past - no one could possibly complain about having the wealth of content to do like in Stormblood or the coherence of any previous expansion prior to throwing in time travel and random anime plotlines at the last minute.







    And there it is. Im glad you didnt disappoint
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atelier-Bagur View Post
    And there it is. Im glad you didnt disappoint
    Funny enough the MMO division is making more in the year following EW than it did the year after ShB.. Not sure the point of the financials. Some decline is expected between major expansion releases, and the decline here is slight.
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    I'm honestly surprised that they're sticking with tomestones. I acknowledge they can't very well tie it to an exploratory zone that doesn't exist, but they can tie it to xyz activity with its own currency/materials to at least meet the relic enthusiasts halfway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EliaStormblade View Post
    I'm honestly surprised that they're sticking with tomestones. I acknowledge they can't very well tie it to an exploratory zone that doesn't exist, but they can tie it to xyz activity with its own currency/materials to at least meet the relic enthusiasts halfway.
    I suspect this is the main issue people have with the relic grind. Not the fact it is a currency grind, but that the ONLY currency to grind is tomestones.

    I still have Ulan's Note from the Anima quests, and you can see all the different ways to get Crystal Sand. Was every method equally easy/time consuming? No, but you had a choice in what you wanted to collect to trade in.

    I can almost guarantee, noone would have as much of an issue if you could get the items via Bi-Colour gemstones, or use up beast tribe currency etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EliaStormblade View Post
    I'm honestly surprised that they're sticking with tomestones. I acknowledge they can't very well tie it to an exploratory zone that doesn't exist, but they can tie it to xyz activity with its own currency/materials to at least meet the relic enthusiasts halfway.
    I suppose they do not really see as much outrage against the idea to warrant that. I can kinda see why Yoshi is doing this, making relics something you can do on the side playing other stuff… but yeah I really wish they at least tied it more into EW stuff and made it more intractable.
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