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    Mcg55ss's Avatar
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    Sirk Raven
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    Ok asking for advice

    This is going to be the worst decision or I'll get some helpful info, basically the thing is apparently I'm starting a static within my free company. Right now we've got 5 that are 100% on board (2 of those 5 are 90 but still finishing endwalker) 1 iffy (she thinks she will bring everyone down and make people mad... basically lacks confidence). So potentially 6 people wanting to raid that I'm leading but here's the thing I have like 2 hours raid experience in this game (p5s kill). Everyone is new to raiding in this game (me and healer have long time WoW experience but nothing here except alliance raids) so far obviously I got to fill last few spots but again never raided really in this game so I'm sure 90% of my time will be dead but yea any tips or advice would be useful.
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    Oscarlet Oirellain
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    It will probably be rougher than a really experienced team, but got to start somewhere.

    There are places you can look for tips, such as The Balance discord or its website, which provides all sorts of optimization information for each class/job, obviously aimed at raiding, the place where optimization even matters.

    For guides on raiding itself, you can take a look at YouTube. There used to be a few really popular content creators such as MTQCapture and MrHappy, but with how the game has grown there are now hundreds of guide makers. So just search for one. Of late, HectorLectures has been very popular. Xenosys makes a lot of guides, but as they come from his stream they may not always seem professional since he is entertaining his audience, and his guides are especially aimed at tanks, so should be very useful to you as a Gunbreaker.

    A lot of these guides also get written up on a lot of websites now. So you can find information everywhere. Just google and youtube for the raid name or class/job tips and it'll be everywhere. Also search for example "P5S clear GNB PoV" to see how another Gunbreaker clears in real time. You might learn things from how they move and how they press their buttons.

    This is quite old, but it is a summary of what all the different markers mean in the game. There are newer ones that were added since https://imgur.com/a/c9oxF1d
    There is a newer one as a video here https://youtu.be/CceE5fKQE4M
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    In other news, there is no technical debt from 1.0.
    "We don't have ... a technological issue that was carried over from 1.0, because ARR was meant to kind of discard what we had from 1.0 and rebuild it from the engine."
    https://youtu.be/ge32wNPaJKk?t=560

    Quote Originally Posted by Jeeqbit View Post
    Want to know why new content will never last more than 20 minutes? Full breakdown:

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    Biggest piece of advice I could give is: raid with people who you can criticize to their face and who can criticize you to yours. People need to improve and learn to actually clear the content and if they aren't willing to hear their mistakes or you're not comfortable having them tell you (maybe because you're all friends and don't want to wreck the friendship), find a different group. Point blank period.
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    Probably a good way to start is cleaning up a few ex trials and older savage content (doesnt have to be min ilvl but should still be synced imo). Strats are usually well developed for older content.

    As static leader you should put thought into laying down some ground rules. Write them down and discuss them with your static. Written and agreed to rules will make your future as static leader a lot easier. Doesnt matter if you think those rules should be obvious already, that just makes it that much easier to write in then. This can include conduct within the party (for example talking about mistakes/wipes) or what people are expected to bring to the raid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Orinori View Post
    Aren't you the same Saraide who makes every savage pf blacklist you because you can never do a mechanic correctly and constantly causes enrage wipes? Pretty ironic to read this lmfao

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    Quote Originally Posted by LianaThorne View Post
    Biggest piece of advice I could give is: raid with people who you can criticize to their face and who can criticize you to yours. People need to improve and learn to actually clear the content and if they aren't willing to hear their mistakes or you're not comfortable having them tell you (maybe because you're all friends and don't want to wreck the friendship), find a different group. Point blank period.
    We are discussed this but I agree with this thing we all will critique each other but not the point we get emotional or toxic about it, also we plan on doing this Friday and Sunday and on Saturday as a free company we run maps so we figure Friday we can raid take it in and think about it then while we're doing maps discuss what we saw and what we need to do Sunday for improvements
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mcg55ss View Post
    We are discussed this but I agree with this thing we all will critique each other but not the point we get emotional or toxic about it, also we plan on doing this Friday and Sunday and on Saturday as a free company we run maps so we figure Friday we can raid take it in and think about it then while we're doing maps discuss what we saw and what we need to do Sunday for improvements
    I'd be cautious of double stacking events with people who are new with raiding, it does tend to drain the brain.
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    If you need to fill the last spots you can always use places such as
    https://www.reddit.com/r/FFXIVRECRUITMENT/ or its discord server
    https://www.xivrecruit.com/

    For dealing with anxiety, the best ways to deal with it are first to arm yourself with information (explained earlier) and then just to do the content. After that, reflect on your flaws, study on how to improve those flaws, then come back to the content and repeat.
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    In other news, there is no technical debt from 1.0.
    "We don't have ... a technological issue that was carried over from 1.0, because ARR was meant to kind of discard what we had from 1.0 and rebuild it from the engine."
    https://youtu.be/ge32wNPaJKk?t=560

    Quote Originally Posted by Jeeqbit View Post
    Want to know why new content will never last more than 20 minutes? Full breakdown:

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    I'd say as a group of newbies to raiding (I assume in general for most of you, not only on XIV) you should take it very easy now, jsut enjoy and learn the game together, and how you mesh together

    If you fancy yourself leader, you will have the dififcult job of balancing the different personalities, and having to hear and give feedback to your players. There will be fuckups and recriminations - there are always fuckups and recriminations - and it would be best if they all went through you, and you could pass them on in a constructive manner. Be prepared to ask, then demand any two players to stop if they start tearing into each other.

    There is no real advice anyone could give you about not dying, you have to practice the fight, and the most important thing for you to get practice is that the static meets on time on the appointed days and that if there is to be drama, it doesn't cut into gamer time. Make sure everyone is prepared unless you do it blind, and maybe have a Discord up to pin your favorite resources for the fight. Often there are various methods to solve a mech, so pick one, make sure everyone is doing it in the same way, and practice it until it works or you decide theat everyone should try something different.
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    FC 'statics' are rarely a good idea. Things get heated, feelings get hurt, people fall out. A static is a pragmatic thing, based on progression and prioritising what's needed for the good of the group. This is not a good thing for established FC's. It's not just things like "player x needs to do more DPS and die less", but things like "Player y can't have loot this week, because player z needs it more" and "Player w progged without us?! that's so inconsiderate!"
    Your better bet would be to take your FC into savage on a casual basis. Pulling in PUGs to fill those last two slots. If and when it comes to current savage prog, everyone should be able to join an external static on their own merits, and if you can manage to do that together then that's great.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seraphor View Post
    FC 'statics' are rarely a good idea. Things get heated, feelings get hurt, people fall out.
    Often true of statics generally. Especially if your goals don't align and need to part ways, or progression speeds are significantly different. In this case it would require both sides to be able to do all this respectfully and with great patience, and some people have that, but others don't.

    Quote Originally Posted by CelestiCer View Post
    Setup Clear Expectations from the get-go
    The purpose of the Static is x and your Goal is x.
    This is very important as well. If some of your static want to prog "for fun" and "the social interaction" and not necessarily to clear, and others want "the loot", and others want to do speedkills, and others want to do it blind, and others want to do it with a guide, and others want to do it within a certain timeframe (beating them all within a certain amount of weeks), then the goals might not align and that doesn't go well.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mcg55ss View Post
    I came from WoW and 90% of your raid teams are in guild
    Our "guilds" are restricted to a single world and restricting raider recruitment to a single world is unnecessary. Cross-world linkshells and discord servers have taken over in that area, leaving FCs for casual or social content a lot of the time. Raid teams here are not that large, except for BA and DRS, and we have cross-world discords for that too.

    Also starting in ex might be great since none of us have raided savage so might get us used to mechanics
    Extreme is easier to get into and to clear. They can be really hard for newer players but they are more recoverable and there are guides for these as well. It's worth following guides at least at the moment while you're all new. If you can clear an extreme you can most likely clear the first two raid floors of a tier which are usually relatively easy as well. The final two are what normally wall people.

    There's a practice dummy with a DPS check??
    You should be able to beat it in the latest pentamelded crafted gear (or come close). You can use high quality food and HQ Grade 7 Tinctures (they will probably be Grade 8 in 2 weeks). Tinctures boost the main stat for 30 seconds, so you use them together during burst windows when all attack buffs are ready. Strength is for tanks and melee DPS (except Ninja), Intelligence magic DPS, Mind healers and Dexterity ranged physical (Bard, Machinist and Dancer) and Ninjas.

    to some people raiding is just a transaction, they put in time they expect gear in the end and that's all they care about.
    It doesn't have to be completely a transaction. You can be friends and do other content and that is even healthy. Where the transaction comes in is that you are all respecting eachother's time, putting in the appropriate and agreed effort and if you need to stop raiding together because of goals not aligning, you each take a deep breath and not be hurt by it and just understand that each side is doing what they need to do, to achieve their goals.
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