Ifrit Extreme....What's Different?

[Aceofspades]

Are you serious?? Do you want me to link the video in question? Here: http://youtu.be/JR_hIFlwnyA

The lag in the US videos can't possibly be for the same reason?? OR maybe..here's a clue..perhaps everyone has latency because the server is junk and the game is so poorly optimized. Every. Single. Player. Has. Latency. Hilarious you bother to deny that. Just look at the video. They are running out from behind the rocks well before the skill visibly goes off. Are you watching the DRG? He/She is activating a skill from the front and running back behind the mob before the skill even goes off. How would that be possible without that "latency" we always blame. It wouldn't be.

My point is there is net latency, or lag. Our lag is worse obviously because we live farther away. But then there's the delay with skills, or with abilities (like Garuda's AoE) that are due to the game's shoddy hardware/poor optimization. That is universal. Everyone deals with it, and everyone learns how to play around it. JP has it. US has it. EU has it. That has nothing to do with ping, because I can do the same thing on my game as that jp player can on his/her game. I bet you can do the same thing as well, despite having superior hardware/inferior hardware. Saying JP players have no latency is just false. Some is caused by net connections, some is caused by hardware. We ALL deal with the latency caused by hardware, if that's the word for it, which has more to do with SE's hardware than ours honestly. The latency caused by net connections will vary by region.

Your tirade was silly, really. It's like you didn't even bother to think about what I said before you spit it out. Heck go to the JP forums and come back to me saying "JP has not latency". Bet they've raged about it the same as we have. Cmon man, seriously.

Sorry to inform you but it is a fact that, altho JP players do have server latiency, it is in fact not the same. I agree that server stability is jsut as bad for everyone but because the physical distance between the server and the ISP is lesser for JP players then anyone else, they will have a faster reaction between their PC and the Servers. Not sure how this is even up for debate, its like saying gravity dosent pull down. Laws of physics would determain that a greater distance travled at the same pace would require more time. Explain to me how, your therory proves laws of physics wrong again? Nevermind the fact that the developers admited to latiency issues for NA and EU players, but explain to me how my Internets speed surpases that of JP internet speed to the point where it can cover over 10x the distance in the same amount of time, especially considering JP internet infostructure is much stronger then NA. And for your info, I have no issues fighting ifrit, but I do not disclaim lag issues soo to make lesser players feel even worse simply to make my self feel better >.> I think the game has enough elitiest , you can park your high hourse outside in the designated "d-bag" section.

[Aceofspades]

Dear all

We have successfully acquired a sizable amount of information concerning the network latency (lag) found to mainly occur during the Ifrit Battle thanks to all the feedback contributed by everyone up until today.
This will prove most helpful and we wish to thank you all for your valuable help.

Our development team is currently constructing a play environment that replicates the one everyone else using in order to investigate and test this ongoing issue.

We will be sure to inform everyone as soon as we discover any useful information.
For now however, we won't require any further feedback about tracert data.

Once again we would like to express our sincere thanks to everyone for their kind assistance.

Please note that we are not closing the thread so please feel free to continue posting about any lag you encounter during the Ifrit Battle, or indeed any other relevant concerns you would like to inform us about.

Thank you for your continuing support.

just thought i would bring that into the convo aswell

[Narzaal]

JP latency seem like EU latency ... Look at 40 second on this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eVEiHcHTFZU#t=0m41s

[Jynx]

All the latency tears...they sustain me.

[Elexia]

All the latency tears...they sustain me.

It's funny how the latency excuse disappeared for awhile then all of a sudden it pops right back up.

[DarthTaru]

In the ten or so hours that I've spent so far with Ifrit Extreme I can honestly say I've only seen one `latency` issue that killed me when I was the equivalent of about 40 feet away from an eruption that still hit me. That is one eruption in all the hundreds now that I've had to run from and avoided successfully. Any that I didn't avoid successfully was due to my own mistake or lost gamble or the poor positioning of another player. I am not one to call BS often and quite frankly get irritated with people who constantly blame things like lag to cover for their mistakes. It makes me think they're incapable of self identifying their own mistakes and will therefor continually repeat them. That or they're just stupid. That or they're lying to save face.

Latency and lag or whatever is not going to be the deciding factor in this confrontation. It has nothing to do with the 13 nail phase which seems to me so far to be the ultimate and truest test of this fight on top of everything else about it which leaves little room for error and sloppy play. This isn't Ifrit Hard; it isn't a fight you need to farm and fight the RNG. You have to kill it one time for one weapon. Anyone who unlocks it and never defeats it will not have been defeated by latency, they'll have been defeated by Ifrit.

[Req]

Anyone who unlocks it and never defeats it will not have been defeated by latency, they'll have been defeated by Ifrit.

Thats deep man.

[Chardrizard]

In the ten or so hours that I've spent so far with Ifrit Extreme I can honestly say I've only seen one `latency` issuethat killed me when I was the equivalent of about 40 feet away from an eruption that still hit me. That is one eruption in all the hundreds now that I've had to run from and avoided successfull y. Any that I didn't avoid successfully was due to my own mistake or lost gamble or the poor positioning of another player. I am not one to call BS often and quite frankly get irritated with people who constantly blame things like lag to cover for their mistakes. It makes me think they're incapable of self identifying their own mistakes and will therefor continually repeat them. That or they're just stupid. That or they're lying to save face.

Latency and lag or whatever is not going to be the deciding factor in this confrontation. It has nothing to do with the 13 nail phase which seems to me so far to be the ultimate and truest test of this fight on top of everything else about it which leaves little room for error and sloppy play. This isn't Ifrit Hard; it isn't a fight you need to farm and fight the RNG. You have to kill it one time for one weapon. Anyone who unlocks it and never defeats it will not have been defeated by latency, they'll have been defeated by Ifrit.

You must be JP.

[Elexia]

You must be JP.

No, he's clearly NA that just happens to live in Japan across the street from the servers.

[Leo_Hart]

Setup : PLD WAR WAR DRG DRG DRG WHM WHM, ZERO BLM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P9FwrItH9fQ

Strange that all drg use Relics, WAr still using Garuda