Ifrit Extreme....What's Different?

[Leo_Hart]

People said Ifrit (Hard) wouldn't be beatable without tons of death due to 'Animation Lock'....

honestly, i saw many still dead > raise > dead (instantly) > raise > dead (instantly) after do it many many times. lolplayer

[Jocko]

I can't see this being realistically possible to win until 2.0 when the animation lock problems are dealt with. Bar the occasional fluke, of course.

This fight won't exist in 2.0

[Lamentor]

This fight won't exist in 2.0

The quest "A Relic Reborn" will be in version 2.0, therefor Ifrit (Extreme) will be in 2.0, at the very least. I doubt the actual quest line is going to change, including the Ifrit fight part of it.

[Catapult]

"This fight won't exist in 2.0"

An assumption with very little foundation. The suspicion that the instanced primal fights will be removed when roaming primal fights are introduced is contradicted by:
- Relic quest using it and this quest's persistance into 2.0
- The Linkshell chat in V2.0 screenshots saying to "meet at the Howling Eye."
- The sheer stupidity of removing easy access to confronting iconic primals in an FF-fan service game (roaming primals will be camped).

[Elexia]

"This fight won't exist in 2.0"

An assumption with very little foundation. The suspicion that the instanced primal fights will be removed when roaming primal fights are introduced is contradicted by:
- Relic quest using it and this quest's persistance into 2.0
- The Linkshell chat in V2.0 screenshots saying to "meet at the Howling Eye."
- The sheer stupidity of removing easy access to confronting iconic primals in an FF-fan service game (roaming primals will be camped).

Or the very fact that Yoshi himself said they will exist in other means (open world/roaming) so we can already say that unless they treat Ifrit Extreme in the light of Abyssea Avatars of 'Tuning Fork of (Element)' style situations, it will be open/roaming as well.

[Jekyll]

A few things to note

That "smoke bomb" ability seems to only affect the player that has hate after Ifrit landing, and only for a short duration.

Jump definitely reset hate, the MNK was green prior to jump, he also landed in the center, not back on the tank as usual.

Hellfire seems to do more damage the closer you are (judging from the position of the dead bodies right after it).
How do I think this? By comparing buffs/position/hp/native job defense between Cat Food and Aisya before HF, and the hp of Aisya after HF. I will not lie; I cannot tell you what foods they ate, however, based on the above information I strongly believe distance matters. All speculation, though.

Jump "safe spots" didn't appear to change, but even if they did its not too had to avoid.

Suggestions

Tank: Have a JA ready to grab Ifrit out of the jump and no actions by any other party members until then.

White Mage: Pray.

[GreyJorildyn]

Ifrit always had 4 pillars and you cannot tell from 1 video that hellfire does more dmg the closer you are to ifrit. In fact I doubt that is a mechanic they would implement in a BC. Some people merely died because they weren't healed up properly nor had buffs to mitigate damage. Don't jump to wild conclusions please.

[Jekyll]

Ifrit always had 4 pillars and you cannot tell from 1 video that hellfire does more dmg the closer you are to ifrit. In fact I doubt that is a mechanic they would implement in a BC. Some people merely died because they weren't healed up properly nor had buffs to mitigate damage. Don't jump to wild conclusions please.

Hence the word "seems". Let's not "jump to wild conclusions" on a sentence that starts with "seems". And yeah, 4 pillars, not sure what I was smoking.

[Rane]

Just to chime in, the new "powder bomb"/"smoke bomb" attack people are referring to is called 熱風 (neppuu) in Japanese. Directly translated, it means "hot wind", though I seriously doubt that that's the English version name, as (like many direct translations from Japanese to English) it sounds pretty bad. I wouldn't be surprised if they called it something like "searing wind", however. We'll just have to see.

Oh, but it won't be me in there finding out, however. Somebody else can do that.
I've got a loooooong way to go before I get there. A loooooong way.

[Alerith]

Just to chime in, the new "powder bomb"/"smoke bomb" attack people are referring to is called 熱風 (neppuu) in Japanese. Directly translated, it means "hot wind", though I seriously doubt that that's the English version name, as (like many direct translations from Japanese to English) it sounds pretty bad. I wouldn't be surprised if they called it something like "searing wind", however. We'll just have to see.

Oh, but it won't be me in there finding out, however. Somebody else can do that.
I've got a loooooong way to go before I get there. A loooooong way.

It just looks like a Sear focused on a target.