I got termination ban but I thought it was too harsh

[qoaewbh10]

Do not use bot software ala gil farm bots, bard player bots or crafting bots. Because if you get caught then you can say "hasta la vista" to your account. And seriously, i do not believe, that using mouse macro software was the reason for this ban. I guess, the thread starter has used other botting software. Or SQEX has an better bot software detection now.



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I only use mouse macros actually. I am proud of clearing any ultimate without 3rd-part apps. That's why I kept asking supprot center what "PROHIBITED ACTIVITIES" I did. Because I didn't use any 3rd-part apps in game, then, I cannot figure out what PROHIBITED ACTIVITIES will make me to get perma ban.

[Larirawiel]

I only use mouse macros actually.

And what did you use before you started using mouse macros?




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[qoaewbh10]

And what did you use before you started using mouse macros?




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Only mouse macros. No more, nothing before mouse macros.

[Canadane]

Only mouse macros. No more, nothing before mouse macros.

This is still automating gameplay, which is a prohibited activity.

[Larirawiel]

This is still automating gameplay, which is a prohibited activity.

True. But there is not a reliable method to tell if someone uses mouse macros or not. And not so reliable methods could easily trigger false alarms. So i suspect, the thread starter has used other bot software and got caught. The instant perma ban is also an indication for it, that SQEX is really sure, that the thread starter did something.



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[hunkygladiator]

True. But there is not a reliable method to tell if someone uses mouse macros or not. And not so reliable methods could easily trigger false alarms. So i suspect, the thread starter has used other bot software and got caught. The instant perma ban is also an indication for it, that SQEX is really sure, that the thread starter did something.



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Have you guys never seen a company make false bans

Anyways, just funny how this thread is full of people defending SE. If you get put in the same situation - because no one's perfect and you're bound to trip up eventually - and get perma'd because you said the f-word in party chat and whatnot, or ever parsed or did any form of modding, or used G/Re-shade (which BTW the GMs have explicitly said that the old 2013 guidelines are not applicable), or really any minor infraction, you'd be "crying" too, maybe not on these forums but probably to your friends or something.

There are like maybe only one or two people in this thread that I can believe is completely above water like Canadane given how absolutely against literally any form of modding they are.

[kaynide]

Have you guys never seen a company make false bans

I mean, sure it’s possible.

But it’s also possible to go through the logs and see what actions OP did with time stamps…and if the craft took exactly 12.23 seconds (or whatever) each time that is logically not something a human with variable click speeds would do.

[Larirawiel]

Have you guys never seen a company make false bans

Yes, false bans can happen. But the thread starter already admitted, that he used third party software to automate his gameplay. So if he thinks, that the ban was not right then he should contact the game support.






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[UkcsAlias]

True. But there is not a reliable method to tell if someone uses mouse macros or not. And not so reliable methods could easily trigger false alarms. So i suspect, the thread starter has used other bot software and got caught. The instant perma ban is also an indication for it, that SQEX is really sure, that the thread starter did something.

Its rarely a single alarm.

Keep in mind that those who use those tools often also lie about what they use. Everything not explicitly mentioned in the ban is something they will hide. So trustworthyness is always low in these cases.

And mouse macros that can perform an entire craft are quite the extensive macro. Most macros i hear are for FPS shooters to negate recoil patterns (to some degree). So on that, you could already consider that a 3rd party tool, as in fps games it is also considered as such (some games ban, some dont, but in tournaments its always banned).

Have you guys never seen a company make false bans.

I have seen plenty of cases on this end, especialy early day anti cheats were realy bad here, detecting even an outdated version of their tool as a cheat. But these days that is rare to happen.

Most detections can happen in a short timespan, but thats usualy also blatant usage (cursors hitting the exact same location is an easy pattern to detect, regardless of timestamps). And some requires an extended time (patterns will eventualy still show). But the 2nd one often relies on player reports to truly trigger an extended investigation as false positives are very likely here.

Most of the time anti cheat isnt even ment to stop cheating 100%, 95% is often more than enough to keep the game well playable, as the remaining 5%, while gaining advantages, does limit themselve enough to avoid issues. Most players dont notice that happening. And yet reports can still cause those to get banned. But whether an investigation on them is worth it, thats a diffirent question.

[DixieBellOCE]

True. But there is not a reliable method to tell if someone uses mouse macros or not. And not so reliable methods could easily trigger false alarms. So i suspect, the thread starter has used other bot software and got caught. The instant perma ban is also an indication for it, that SQEX is really sure, that the thread starter did something.



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After being reported, a GM most likely observed the person (Who has openly admitted to using mouse software to automate their crafting (AKA BOTTING)) and decided that a permanent ban was in order.

That is all there is to it.

We know Square enix has no way to detect automation software, or else all those people afk crafting in their houses all day with Autocrafters would have been banned back in heavensward when it first started getting out of control.
(And yes, many people still do it today and have never been banned in all the years of automating it).

The only explanation is that the OP was reported and a GM caught them in the act.