Dragoon Rework

[Aco505]

You speak of EJ like it’s an OGCD often used during bursts. It's not lol.

I want SSD gone because I think it feels weak, has been around since forever and occupies two OGCD slots in our 2 minute bursts. Add something new in its stead. Something more badass and which would dynamically shake up our rotation.

It doesn't matter, why do you want a forward EJ to bind when you could just give the job a non-damaging gap closer instead?

If SSD is weak, as you say, then improve it but don't remove it. Our attacks may seem "weak" because we deal 33% more damage during burst as we have two personal buffs and not one like most other jobs.

STD, for instance, deals 750.2 and 824.6 potency in odd and even bursts respectively. Could it be better due to it being a single weave? Yes, but it's no big deal and we definitely don't want it to go higher than base 800 potency as is sometimes suggested here and in the JP forums, where they often ask for it to be like 1000 potency.

Ya got me, I didn’t think about how a 5s CD on Nastrond would force people to fit all 3 within BL's 15s window. Maybe BL needs to be 20s, maybe we need to cut 1 Nastrond and adjust its potency accordingly, I don’t know.

Still, I don’t like how we’re forced to use them over the full lenght of LotD with the last Nastrond slipping out of buffs.

I can see the point of the 3rd NAS being weird since it's never in buffs, the question is... is that a problem in itself? I'd rather LotD as a whole interacted more with our other oGCDs or changed our GCDs in some way.

I am not opposed to having all NAS in buffs, but at the same time I wonder if everything has to be based on buffs and the burst. After all, we can't even have better control of WWT usage because our maximum amount of scales is 2, leaving us with only 5 GCDs of margin.

That's a bad take. And having a gutted-2m-burst for an opener isn’t ”job identity”.

If something doesn’t feel good to play, you change it for the better. After all, SE did change RDM’s Manafont from being %-based to a flat 50/50 increase to b/w mana so it could open with the party correctly.

Besides, I believe having an eye-generating ability would be a nice opportunity to shake up DRG's rotation. Maybe add 3-4 charges for eyes instead of 2? Maybe let us consume 1 eye for a damage buff? Maybe add an aoe damage effect to that ability like Horrid Roar so it's dual-purpose? Lots of ideas just brainstorming about it.

I don't agree that it's a bad take. There's other jobs in similar situations such as BRD and WHM, as well as gauge jobs like RDM, RPR or MCH that don't have all their possible resources in the opener.

I think it's good that we become a very strong job in those situations where we can start a fight with resources, such as the 2nd part of the 4th turn of each savage. When I say "it can feel bad", I'm talking about those who would like to have a proper opener.

Don't get me wrong, I'd like it too (it feels great to execute full reopeners like after the add phase of P3S or in ultimates), but if getting it means that the job stops having this unique feature, then what would be the point?

If DRG copies a system like the one used by RDM/RPR, what would be the difference then besides some flavor?

My point is: I'm skeptical. I'd rather not remove but improve what we have as I have said in other posts.

I cannot fully trust that the job will be changed for the better and fear the rework, because while some reworks may have been well-received by some, others made the job skeletal. Removal of things can easily lead to places we don't want to go (see SAM and SMN).