Dragoon Rework

[Cabalabob]

I imagine the rework will follow suit with the DRK/WAR/PLD/SMN reworks of just simplifying and tightening up the rotation so it cycles better with the 2 min meta with a strong burst window. Likely changing things to start looking like the final rotation earlier in the jobs life.

I can see some action trimming for starters. Disembowel and vorpal thrust combined into one action, dragon sight removed or combined with lance charge/litany, mirage dive baked into high jump, dragonfire dive removed/combined with stardiver, life surge reworked into a purely defensive tool, fang and claw/wheeling thrust combined into one action that changes based on which proc you have, probably some change so that high jump activates “geriskogul ready” (removing the CD from geriskogul) so you can’t misalign your life of the dragon by using it before jump and maybe some random changes like making elusive jump buff your next piercing talon.

For the rotation I’m basically expecting them to add a lower level action in the 50 era that will become geriskogul at 60 and nastrond as usual. Which is why I believe dragonfire dive would likely be combined with stardiver to be kind of a lower level version that upgrades when geriskogul becomes nastrond. The geriskogul action being triggered by using jump which upgrades to high jump… You see where I’m going with this.

[ataren3]

I'd like to see dragoon sort of go through the life of a dragon if that kind of makes sense. They start off with not great damage but as they go through the fight that damage increases until they're at their "prime", pumping out big damage. Then it wanes down as though the life is ending and begins anew. Like a crescendo of damage. Not really "bursty" but it has a goal to reach for that big damage payoff that's just naturally happening over time.

Idk you're "channeling the dragon spirit within you and it wants to break free" or something.

[Keichi]

Na, dont like this idea. It feels like the monk before his rework at the end of shb.
Where he was at first slow and became faster after some hits. That Design wasnt so greate (esspecial, because the time Limit was so slow).
Drg feels like the second fastes meele, with the most straight lined rotation (fastes is the monk, nin feels like he is place 3). But, is weaker in dmg as the other meele.

I think, that is what it should be. No or little build up to look after. The only things is, to reduce the skill chain again (5 Hits feels a little to much). And make the dragon eye easier.

Maybe they could have a round around aoe attack (and not all the time a line aoe).

[Shurrikhan]

Assuming you’re referring to my proposition, I think you misunderstood.

Pretty sure it was in reference to...

I'd like to see dragoon sort of go through the life of a dragon if that kind of makes sense. They start off with not great damage but as they go through the fight that damage increases until they're at their "prime", pumping out big damage. Then it wanes down as though the life is ending and begins anew. Like a crescendo of damage. Not really "bursty" but it has a goal to reach for that big damage payoff that's just naturally happening over time.

Idk you're "channeling the dragon spirit within you and it wants to break free" or something.

On which note, I agree with Keichi. Slowly ramping dps in excess of the damage-delays we already have now... is not something that has historically (or, especially in XIV) fit a skirmisher like DRG.

There are some ways in which that could work... somewhat... but I wouldn't want to arbitrarily hamstring DRG's opener just to make that happen, for instance. Instead, maybe... use actual CDs... but with cooldown-reduction per/on certain actions that might accelerate their frequency for that "ramping"/"synergetic" flavor.

[Petite]

On that note, I think you may want/need to actually increase the raw potency loss, since you'll be using PT outside of buffs, but the increased DFD damage would occur under buffs, which would already more than offset the raw potency loss.

Yep. That’s why the trick that would make that system work would be to tweak potencies carefully so that all 3 routes (0 PT, 1 PT, 2PT) yield about the same amount of total potency, buffs included.

Wouldn’t need to be absolutely perfect though as the main goal of that system would be to let you line your buffs in a better GCD spot, which is where potencial potency gains would occur.

Na, dont like this idea. It feels like the monk before his rework at the end of shb.

Drg feels like the second fastes meele, with the most straight lined rotation (fastes is the monk, nin feels like he is place 3)

Assuming you’re referring to my proposition, I think you misunderstood. We're not talking about speeding up DRG’s GCD at all.

It’s about having the option to delay our GCD combo progression without suffering DPS loss when doing so.

With this we could:
• tweak where your buffs come back up in your GCD combo;
• give PT a purpose other than pitiful range damage
• gain flexibility at no cost to your rotation while disconnected from target
• give more flair to DfD

All that without bringing drastic changes or adding new buttons. Simply QoL and more damage from using your buffs at better places in your combo.