Dragoon Rework

[primarisgoazrr]

Hey Friends it’s crazy to think that we’ve been in Endwalker for a year and a half, time sure does fly. I got to think thinking about the DRG rework again I’m not even sure what the could change, the job has been pretty consistent (I’ve been playing since stormblood). So maybe this time we’ll get Heart of Man(the transformation Nidhogg used in the trial), some of the jumps we see Estinien use, or maybe even some dragon spells like Ahk Morn. Whatever they decide to do I hope think they some notes from SMN, in terms of keeping with the job fantasy, but I don’t want it to super easy either. I decently confident the dev will give us something that’s fun for most of us, but part me can’t help but worry. I would hate leave behind my 1st/favorite job.

Thank you for reading, here’s to a new and fun Dragoon! Take care

[Reinhardt_Azureheim]

GCD Jump actions. I can smell them.

Bless Primal Rend for this genius idea.

[undull1]

Merge dragons sight/battle litany

Merge life surge/lance charge.

Give us a gcd super like the PvP limit break, boss mechanics be damned I wanna play an actual dragoon.

[ZiraZ]

Change Nothing.

[Noox-115]

Change Nothing.

Gigachad player I approve this

[DARKWEB]

I'm still a sprout but I think they could remove Disembowel/Vorpal Thrust, and implement the DoT/Buff into Chaotic Spring/Heaven's Thrust. Also, while it may cause issues with animation lock (maybe not, it really depends on how they implement it), I would personally love if they swapped True Thrust and Raiden Thrust, to Jump and High Jump respectively - whether they want to make these gap closers is up to them, but the option is there). Since Jump and High Jump would be the first weaponskill in the combo, they could add more charges to Spineshatter and make it so that every X amount of Spineshatters grant a Life of the Dragon stack. This would give the job more flavor and possibly more mobility. I also agree that Wheeling Thrust/Fang and Claw can be merged into one button so that it can just transform into the appropriate one. Another personal want of mine is to replace Life Surge into a defensive since Dragoon is the only job that doesn't have one (especially as a melee with animation locks which is crazy). I would prefer it to become Lancet since it's an iconic Dragoon ability. It could even have a secondary effect like grant a certain stat or give a speed boost/cooldown reduction depending on the enemy type it was used on.

Lastly while completely unrealistic, I thought it would be really cool if they gave us a new Life of the Dragoon super jump that also acted as a defensive (assuming they just don't give us one). Maybe one that worked like Doomfists Meteor Strike (you leap into the air and a ground targeting reticle appears, you have X amount of seconds to choose where to land and deal damage to that area. Full-on I-frames would be way too strong so maybe you take less damage while in the air?) If they did something like this, they could move Stardiver to be usable outside of Life of the Dragon and maybe that would be our source of Life of the Dragon stacks. I know it's a really crazy idea, but every time I see a Dragoon cutscene, they're just chillin in the air until they decide to strike down and I figured that would be a cool way to implement that idea while tying in a defensive into it since we lack one.

At the end of the day though, I would really like it if we got more Jumps and less grounded, lance-based weaponskills because those are boring and un-Dragoonlike. There are so many references that can be used (even Dissidia Kain would be a great source) and we just don't have them in here. Don't get me wrong, I love the job, I just wish it was more like how it's depicted in the cinematics.

[Valence]

Don't worry. Leaving behind your butchered job happens eventually, and it leaves scars that will last for many expansions.

[Ilyn]

I've posted it before but these are my ideas . Give Spinshatter Dive/Piercing Talon/Elusive jump its own combo , make Dragonfire Dive an Aoe Variant to Mirage Dive and make Dragonsight like Dance Partner and let it proc with BL & LC .

[Shurrikhan]

GCD Jump actions. I can smell them.

Bless Primal Rend for this genius idea.

Actions? As in including our Dives? ...

RIP gap-closing in any responsive manner, then. >.>

Give Spinshatter Dive/Piercing Talon/Elusive jump its own combo

I'm guessing not in that exact order...

Instead of a "combo", moreover, wouldn't it make more sense to just have Piercing Talon reduce the cooldown of Spineshatter dive by 15 seconds or so, and perhaps for either Dive to reduce the remaining cooldown on Elusive Jump? That provides far more flexibility despite still being able to sufficiently impact each other (since PT is situational and EJ is used less often than its CD).

make Dragonfire Dive an Aoe Variant to Mirage Dive

Then it wouldn't actually dive, nor able to hold much power since it'd be available per 30 seconds instead of per 2 minutes...? It'd just be a ranged oGCD attack, and likely as low as 80 potency, given that the ST version is only 200.

I'd rather not.

and make Dragonsight like Dance Partner and let it proc with BL & LC.

I guess I'm fine with this, as long as DRG rDPS isn't tuned around Dragonsight not stacking LC and BL in order to eek more Dragonsight proc duration out of the two. (At which point it becomes a slight reduction to punishment for desyncing the two, rather than forcing DRG to desync from and thereby waste raid buffs' contribution to LC for its full support value.)

[CelestiCer]

Thought DRG's would just be happy with QOL changes. Like increased range and width of all their Line-AoEs. Visual updates of some Jump-impacts actually being Nidhogg levels of earthshattering.