How-to Obtain Relic ^^;

[Krausus]

Mythic were the relic of ToAU needed to basically clear all ToAU content and get like 30,000 alexanderite which droped from salvage. It was just as difficult to get unless you grinded the ToAU content as it was released.

just wondering if XIV relic should be compared to XI relic and XI mythic compared to a future XIV weapon. It makes no sense to me to compare the XIV relic with XI mythic just because XI mythic was harder to get just so people can say XI was harder. XIV could get mythic weapons in the future that are harder than XIs... if any of that makes sense ><

[Arksniper]

just wondering if XIV relic should be compared to XI relic and XI mythic compared to a future XIV weapon. It makes no sense to me to compare the XIV relic with XI mythic just because XI mythic was harder to get just so people can say XI was harder. XIV could get mythic weapons in the future that are harder than XIs... if any of that makes sense ><

Easier than Relic/Mythic from XI so far.

[Xaimera]

They are comparable. They're both endgame weapons seen as the most powerful weapons as they're class, and they both require long and arduous steps to get.

love the fact that u used ace attorney pics! XD

[Otaku]

If this game felt like FFXI I'd have a ton of content to do, lots of people to play with and I would be playing my SCH and DNC, The Relic requirement in XI is nothing compared to XIV's...

By saying SCH/DNC you're talking post WotG, before that there wasn't 3 exp packs so while there was content there wasn't as much as when you're talking, it was a long slow grind that took months, we will start seeing server firsts in a week or so I think

[Felis]

They may not be "hard" or "difficult" to obtain, but it's way more of a time investment than I want to put into it. If this is what is supposed to tide us over until beta for 2.0 starts and longer, I'm just going to complete the story elements and play other things.

fixed it a bit. The quest would be still there with 2.0. And it is the only quest you don't need to start at step 1 again if you don't finish it before 2.0

[Airget]

If this game felt like FFXI I'd have a ton of content to do, lots of people to play with and I would be playing my SCH and DNC, The Relic requirement in XI is nothing compared to XIV's...

XI -
Gain weapon from appropriate Dynamis zone - Very common drop
Gain currency - You can even do this solo and buy every currency if you have the gil for it
Gain craft items requested - This above all is the easiest step unless you go after Gungnir, which has a weapon you need to craft yourself or get someone to craft.
Wait a few real life days between steps.
Gain Attestations and Shards - Very very easy.
Take weapon to requested zone and get your weapon (or shield) and a refund on one of the steps which you can hand off to someone else or sell.

Tell me how that's "bad" compared to XIVs that people are complaining about left and right?



Good thing I saved all my beastmen currency (paid off playing FFXI lol.)

You're basing your information on the current setup of relics and not on when it first came out. It's possible the XIV version may go through the same evolution as time progresses but you first have to think of XI like this:
-3 days in between a run
-500k-1mil entry fee each run
-run through hoops to spawn the parts for attestation and shard
..

But since you are now talking about the Magian trial version you have to input the following requirements to make a weapon which is worthy of being used for 99:
-Use Metatron Torment 200 times against Lizards. (process of building up 100 TP and using it on a lizard type mob, and missed WS don't count)
-Use Metatron Torment to deal the finishing blow 200 times against Plantoids. (now you have to land killing blow with WS so you beat off mob til you feel comfortable with using said WS)
-Use Metatron Torment to deal the finishing blow 300 times against the Undead. (same as above)
-Use Metatron Torment to deal the finishing blow 300 times against Plantoids. (same as above and it finally rewards you with the lv 80 weapon)
-Use Metatron Torment to deal the finishing blow 400 times against Dragons. (I'm sure by now you've spent weeks reaching this part lol)
-Defeat Goublefaupe 5 times with Bravura (85) equipped. (which is easier now cause of changes made to dynamis being onec a day plus the fact said NM is a pop now so you can do it in one run if you have said pops)
-Defeat the Animated Great Axe 10 times with Bravura (90) equipped. (same as above easier now cause of changes with Dynamis)
-Retrieve 5 Vials of Umbral Marrow and turn them in to the Delivery Crate in Ru'Lude Gardens at (H-5) next to the Magian Moogle.
**To obtain said item you have to face off against "Arch Dynamis Lord" to face off against him you have to do the following
***obtain Fiendish Tomes 26-30. Now where do these come from?
****Each Tome comes from a boss NM in Xarcabard, 4 demons and Dynamis Lord
*****Each NM has a pop you have to farm, then you have to farm them for the tome, then you have to take that tome to spawn the arch dynamis lord and beat him.

So ya.. think Xi stills wins for being tougher lol

[Gentaro]

Don't leave out the fact that you could work alone on your Mythic wep, for the Relic 30+ people worked together for one weapon

[Arksniper]

So ya.. think Xi stills wins for being tougher lol

For sure. XI you had 5 stages.
Stage 1: Drop weapon.
Stage 2: 4x 100 currency. Stage 1 weapon 3 crafted items.
Stage 3:14x 100 currency. Stage 2 weapon 3 weapon items.
Stage 4: 61x 100 currency Stage 3 weapon 1 Attestation which dropped from a mob that will spawn 6 helpers and has a semi low drop rate
Stage 5: 100x 100 Currency. Stage 4 Weapon 1 Shard from dragons before DL and an item from an animated weapon that you have to kill in like under 60 sec.

So that is 179x 100 items that vary depending on weapon. An average full run yields 300 currency or the equivalent of 3 x 100 items. Depending on shell you may or may not get the 100's that drop so assuming they do not go to you that's 60 runs you have to do or the equivalent of 60 million gil or 30 million based on when you started. Each run being 3+ hrs long that is at least 180 hours or 60 days of play time plus the time needed to farm 30-60million gil. This also doesn't count the number of times you may have to retry a run to kill the animated weapons or attain an attestation so you are looking at 60 days on the highly optimistic side. XI blows this difficulty out of the water. I agree.

Edited in: Mythics were just as hard and always required at least 1 full party but I wont get into those insane requirements.

[Ryuko]

I don't understand why people are still complaining about the difficulty of the relic weapons. Yes, getting relic weapons in XI was harder, but this isn't XI.

Also, these weapons are GREAT, but you're not going to be a TERRIBLE player without them. I guarantee that all content is tested with 'typical' gear; it is not tested with every player having the best gear available. (That is why new content is seemingly a cakewalk for well-geared people once they figure out a strategy that works. Also, this isn't new news, but... gear doesn't have as much of an effect on performance as some would like. See: naked Ifrit runs, etc.) They do not test new content with people having relic weapons (although they might take screenshots to 'make it look cool'). We all know that this game is meant to be playable for casual players, and it would be SUICIDE to make the relic weapons a 'required' thing.

SO... you don't NEED to get them to enjoy the game. If you don't want to deal with the time sink or chance aspect of it, just don't do it, or be patient (and wait for it to come naturally). It's not like you NEED to do this to go forward in a main story line or participate in mainstream content. As others have said, it's simply here to give us something to do while we wait for 2.0. I would love to get my relic weapon, and I am committed to doing it, but I know it's going to be a while. Heck, I don't even have all my seals from Hamlet yet.

The one main 'issue' I am willing to recognize is the fact that when new jobs come out, I may be in the midst of completing one class's relic before I can start on a class that I would really prefer to get a relic for. HOWEVER... by the time new classes are released, implemented, given AF and relics... I'm sure any dedicated player will be done with their first relic weapon.

[Molic]

Anyone find out if you have to get 9 seals + 25k book for every relic weapon yet? or just the one time to as a pre-req?