I want to play *This* game

[Jojoya]

Well I can't speak for everyone but I'm not asking for the game to force me to keep playing it however much a day to keep caught up. I just want content with some longevity to it. There is room between being forced to play the game 5 hours+ every day to stay caught up and you being done with patch content 5 hours into a major patch and having to wait 4 months for hopefully more stuff to do. No one was forced to do Eureka or Bozja when those were current content. I don't know why people struggle to grasp such a simple concept, now we have content that is one and done and nothing else besides the same old roulettes we've been doing for 10 years. I just want more out of the game, I know it can do better, it has in the past. Now people just settle for less because daddy Yoshi-P(rimal) has indoctrinated half the playerbase into being corporate thralls or something... I don't know.

I played XIV exclusively for a year and even that was horrible, you can still play other games, it's good that the game allows that without falling behind but now it has tilted to basically being forced to play other games all the time since XIV doesn't offer anything to keep you logged in aside from RP or whatever, and I don't RP so there really is nothing.

What keeps you interested in repeating content after you've completed it for the first time? That's useful information for the developers if they're trying to solve longevity problems.

As for players not forced into Eureka or Bozja, I know a lot of players who would disagree about at least Eureka and likely Bozja. They want the relic weapons. Eureka was the only way to get the Stormblood relics. Bozja itself was an option yet when the players disliked the other option more, that left them stuck in Bozja for the Shadowbringers relics.

We're running into the place where players aren't a hive mind and don't enjoy the same content yet there's a major content reward - the relic weapons - that most of them want to get. SE took a chance this expansion and allowed players their choice of content to grind for the weapons and still many haven't been happy. Hard to say what they're going to plan for next expansion now.

[AwesomeJr44]

As for players not forced into Eureka or Bozja, I know a lot of players who would disagree about at least Eureka and likely Bozja. They want the relic weapons. Eureka was the only way to get the Stormblood relics. Bozja itself was an option yet when the players disliked the other option more, that left them stuck in Bozja for the Shadowbringers relics.

I'm sure a lot of people want the ultimate weapons too, but we don't sell those at vending machines to make the process easy for the people who don't want to put the effort in or who don't like the grind.

[Jojoya]

I'm sure a lot of people want the ultimate weapons too, but we don't sell those at vending machines to make the process easy for the people who don't want to put the effort in or who don't like the grind.

I'm not suggesting that it should be that way. I'm just pointing out that some players would disagree with what that poster said.

If you want a reward then you do the content that is required to get it. Ultimate weapons aren't quite the same as the relic weapons because of the skill level involved. While there are less than ethical ways to still get those weapons and some players will go that route, most will accept them as inaccessible.

That hasn't been the case with the relic weapons. The content for them is accessible to the average player and so they do the quests to get them. It's not going to change that if they don't like the associated content, they're going to feel forced into doing that content so they can get the new relic.

[Deo14]

I'm not suggesting that it should be that way. I'm just pointing out that some players would disagree with what that poster said.

If you want a reward then you do the content that is required to get it. Ultimate weapons aren't quite the same as the relic weapons because of the skill level involved. While there are less than ethical ways to still get those weapons and some players will go that route, most will accept them as inaccessible.

That hasn't been the case with the relic weapons. The content for them is accessible to the average player and so they do the quests to get them. It's not going to change that if they don't like the associated content, they're going to feel forced into doing that content so they can get the new relic.

I felt forced to do those garbage Hildibrand quests. Even though I skipped all cutscenes and unsynced trials, it still took some 2 hours. Please no quests next time Yoshi, just mail them to me at patch day please.

[AwesomeJr44]

I'm not suggesting that it should be that way. I'm just pointing out that some players would disagree with what that poster said.

With all due respect, good for them.

I know a lot of raiders will not agree with my take here but literally who cares if someone else buys an ulti glam from a hypothetical vendor.

Personally I don't care if someone buys an ultimate clear, as long as they don't try to claim that they cleared it themselves. Same thing with paying someone to clear Eureka/Bozja for you, I couldn't care less, just don't flex the rewards and claim you earned them if you didn't. However, I think that content and it's reward structures should be designed with the idea that everyone is participating in it themselves.

[Saraide]

I'm not suggesting that it should be that way. I'm just pointing out that some players would disagree with what that poster said.

If you want a reward then you do the content that is required to get it. Ultimate weapons aren't quite the same as the relic weapons because of the skill level involved. While there are less than ethical ways to still get those weapons and some players will go that route, most will accept them as inaccessible.

That hasn't been the case with the relic weapons. The content for them is accessible to the average player and so they do the quests to get them. It's not going to change that if they don't like the associated content, they're going to feel forced into doing that content so they can get the new relic.

Yea I dont think the comparison really works but it's pretty whatever to me either way. I know a lot of raiders will not agree with my take here but literally who cares if someone else buys an ulti glam from a hypothetical vendor. I do those fights to beat them, the glams are a nice extra but it's the content that I'm here for not the rewards. Would I do as many reclears? Probably not but that's a minor part anyway.

[Jkap_Goat]

XI was great because...well, I was a teenager with all the time in the world to play it when that game initially came out. I have many fond memories of XI, and yet, I never want to play that kind of game ever again.

XIV doesn't require that kind of investment and that is a good thing.

well FFXI is less grindy than before, but I started FFXI three years ago and Im kind of mad at myself I didn't start this amazing game first than XIV, the jobs are amazing with each their own image instead of a carbon copy like XIV jobs and i love how deep the combat system is and doing skillchains or magic bursts with your fellow team mates to do more damage than filling up a mindless gauge do do one limit break which is always DD doing

Also I'm not stuck with the boring ass sicons every expansion, I get to meet new people in every expansion and yeah I will see familiar faces like shantotto or Lion but they don't overstay their welcome like the scions do ( looking at you Ystola, or the male twin)



is FFXIV even considered a RPG when all the RPG elements are like gone from the game? it's more of a dress up, second life, night club social game like IMVU

anyways I'm having a great time with XI, Vana'diel is my home

[Boblawblah]

well FFXI is less grindy than before, but I started FFXI three years ago and Im kind of mad at myself I didn't start this amazing game first than XIV, the jobs are amazing with each their own image instead of a carbon copy like XIV jobs and i love how deep the combat system is and doing skillchains or magic bursts with your fellow team mates to do more damage than filling up a mindless gauge do do one limit break which is always DD doing

Also I'm not stuck with the boring ass sicons every expansion, I get to meet new people in every expansion and yeah I will see familiar faces like shantotto or Lion but they don't overstay their welcome like the scions do ( looking at you Ystola, or the male twin)



is FFXIV even considered a RPG when all the RPG elements are like gone from the game? it's more of a dress up, second life, night club social game like IMVU

anyways I'm having a great time with XI, Vana'diel is my home

Anyone ever have an ex call up out of the blue years later to say "I'm doing great btw. I met someone. I'm soo happy."?

[R041]

anyways I'm having a great time with XI, Vana'diel is my home

Been legitimately thinking about it.. Might pull the trigger and check it out.

[SturmChurro]

Been legitimately thinking about it.. Might pull the trigger and check it out.

It's on sale here soon with a free login campaign. Would be a good time to grab it, or try it.