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    Absimiliard's Avatar
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    Cassius Rex
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    Gladiator Lv 90
    As much as I'd like to say no MMO ever truly dies, there was one worthwhile one that actually did the unthinkable and managed to die.
    Rest in peace, Warhammer Online.
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    Lynne Asteria
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    Jenova
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    Viper Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Absimiliard View Post
    As much as I'd like to say no MMO ever truly dies, there was one worthwhile one that actually did the unthinkable and managed to die.
    Rest in peace, Warhammer Online.

    Star wars galaxies, Tera, wildstar, etc.
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    Player RyuDragnier's Avatar
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    Hayk Farsight
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    Exodus
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    Star wars galaxies, Tera, wildstar, etc.
    Wildstar alone is a shame. Was a pretty fun game and had the best housing I've seen in ANY MMO.
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    Sebazy Spiritwalker
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    Quote Originally Posted by Absimiliard View Post
    As much as I'd like to say no MMO ever truly dies, there was one worthwhile one that actually did the unthinkable and managed to die.
    Rest in peace, Warhammer Online.
    A little late on the response, but Warhammer Online actually has a community run server that's been pretty successful over the years. Look up Return of Reckoning videos on YouTube if you're curious++
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    ~ WHM / badSCH / Snob ~ http://eu.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/character/871132/ ~

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    M'zim Skyfoot
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    Archer Lv 90
    "I look through the forums and everyday..."

    I found your problem.
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    Player Shinkuno's Avatar
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    Shin Kuno
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    Arcanist Lv 10
    People in here crying about "meta skillbuild" ironically out themselves as bad players. Cause meta "builds" already exist in this game: materia and rotation. How many of you do the BiS rotation? 2-3%? 98% of the games content is made in the way someone spamming 2 buttons and is semi-afk can complete it, why cry about "meta builds" if the game can already be completed by being completly suboptimal
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    hunkygladiator's Avatar
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    Men-on Edge
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    Jenova
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    Botanist Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Shinkuno View Post
    People in here crying about "meta skillbuild" ironically out themselves as bad players. Cause meta "builds" already exist in this game: materia and rotation. How many of you do the BiS rotation? 2-3%? 98% of the games content is made in the way someone spamming 2 buttons and is semi-afk can complete it, why cry about "meta builds" if the game can already be completed by being completly suboptimal
    mfw "materia" when that makes even less difference than 1%

    Quote Originally Posted by Avoidy View Post
    For the "just play all the jobs" idea to even work, we'd need (to start, at the very least) a gear progression setup that wasn't timegated and cockblocked by the devs nonstop. The moment you try and get anything better than crafted gear or dungeon gear (lol) the game starts timegating you like crazy at pretty much every level, even for the stuff that isn't BiS. Want raid gear? Once a week at best. Want the good tome gear? Weekly cap on how many tomes you can earn. There's also the time investment of leveling a job to cap, the sheer chore-factor of it, and the matter of personal preference. Saying this as someone with every combat job at 90; I'm not touching SMN in its current form, no matter how "optimal" it becomes in the content I enjoy. The selling point of the job system is that you can play every job in the game, not that you have to. And that message is seen in every job progression system in the game. A lot of things would have to change for us to feasibly reach the sort of "screw balance, just play everything" goal you're talking about here, unless your only goal is buying 610 crafted gear and chilling in content where balance doesn't matter.

    Bit of a pipe dream now, but I wish we had actual teams dedicated to each job. And those teams talked to each other, and to the raid teams, to create an actual holistic team based experience. Instead it's really obvious that they have like 4 guys responsible for every job in the game, so we get ez homogenization design choices and imbalance issues that make people question whether or not the jobs were even playtested.
    Yes, I agree. Which is why even without housing raiders can be trapped to sub for the game for months (inb4 "BiS doesn't matter" when it's literally required for Ultimates)
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    Seijuro Kibagami
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    Adamantoise
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    Samurai Lv 100
    I love the game for what it is, but..
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    Lamonte Cristo
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    Reaper Lv 100
    Nothing can be done when your director doesnt care anymore
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    Death Is Only The Beginning....

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    Montana Wildhack
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    Coeurl
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    Bard Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by MonteCristo View Post
    Nothing can be done when your director doesnt care anymore
    it's pretty obvious. I don't really care for him either.
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