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    I think OP is confusing narrow AI and general AI. Narrow AI simply does tasks (aka bots and chatgpts) while general AI is the one that learns. Imo we already have bots that play arguably better than humans in ffxiv, trusts are the proof, it dont help most gameplay in ffxiv is like a dance so it makes their task easier.

    Quote Originally Posted by hynaku View Post
    One day when we have human AI robots and they start gaming, Will they be banned or allowed to play against human players.
    Ever heard of AlphaGo vs Go world champion Lee Sedol or Deep blue vs chess champion Kasparov back then?
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    Quote Originally Posted by DayHealer View Post
    I think OP is confusing narrow AI and general AI. Narrow AI simply does tasks (aka bots and chatgpts) while general AI is the one that learns. Imo we already have bots that play arguably better than humans in ffxiv, trusts are the proof, it dont help most gameplay in ffxiv is like a dance so it makes their task easier.


    Ever heard of AlphaGo vs Go world champion Lee Sedol or Deep blue vs chess champion Kasparov back then?
    Go is an extremely simple game in terms of the "size" of the choice set. AI has a long way to go before it can play something like a modern action game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saraide View Post
    Really? You of all people dont see the point of riling people up with fake/bait posts?
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    It's not a problem that SE or the gaming industry can solve. It's a problem that must be solved by society because it goes beyond just gaming.

    What prompts people to cheat? How do we get that behavior to stop?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    It's not a problem that SE or the gaming industry can solve. It's a problem that must be solved by society because it goes beyond just gaming.

    What prompts people to cheat? How do we get that behavior to stop?
    "CRIME MUST BE STOPPED BY ASKING CRIMINALS TO JUST STOP"

    Thankfully criminology and social science in general has moved on from this perspective.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hunkygladiator View Post
    "CRIME MUST BE STOPPED BY ASKING CRIMINALS TO JUST STOP"

    Thankfully criminology and social science in general has moved on from this perspective.
    Same thing applies to gaming. People aren't going to stop cheating just because others ask them to stop.

    If no one takes the time to find out what prompts the cheating, then it's unlikely that any changes made will discourage it.
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    With how fast A.I. is progressing, Mao thinkings gaming will be the LEAST of everyones worries. Within next 20 years many peoples here will lose jobs to A.I. and that includes highly skilled technical jobs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eraden View Post
    With how fast A.I. is progressing, Mao thinkings gaming will be the LEAST of everyones worries. Within next 20 years many peoples here will lose jobs to A.I. and that includes highly skilled technical jobs.
    Detroit: Become Mao

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    Main reason people cheat in MMOs is simply because:

    A) They are just some edgelord looking to be a showoff curbstomping everybody
    B) They don't have much time for gaming
    C) Because they can.
    D) Rare reason probably they want to know how the game works
    E) Rare reason they want to explore for unused Content (there is people like this)
    F) They're some kind of farmer, and sometimes real money is involved.

    Group A and F is the most likely cheaters that populate most MMOs
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