Alliance Raid Queue Too Long

[Lasten]

I'm on a new world, a level 88 Ninja. In daily roulettes, I queued for the Alliance Raid. It's about 1:30 pm Pacific time now. The longest I have waited for this queue, in the past, has been about 1 1/2 hours. So far, I have been waiting 2 hours and 25 minutes. This is so frustrating.

[Saraide]

Is your server always this dead?

[Lasten]

But the 4 new worlds on Dynamis, share their dungeon queues, with 4 worlds, it shouldn't take this long. I'll think twice about creating a new toon on a new world next time I create one.

[VirusOnline]

A new DC at the end of patch cycle and 130 PST ? Yeah.

Sometimes even on Primal I get a 30m wait at 11 EST though that doesn't happen too often.

I'd make sure you check that all your languages are on in your DF settings and have all current raids unlocked for your level. IIRC Nier is being spammed for the event. If none of this works, most likely everyone else is traveling off DC to queue.

[TaleraRistain]

Right now alliance roulette is still slow on Dynamis. I've run into the same thing on my alt. The other queues seem to be much better than they were, but AR is still that slow even in busy times.

[Lasten]

After 3 hours in alliance queue, I left it and started doing the other roulettes. They are so much better. I'll try the Alliance again later and just enjoy TV while waiting.

[Ishe-P]

I think SE dramatically overestimated how popular the new DC was going to be. Even when asking players to move for housing and a 1m bonus, the fact that DC travel was possible led players to migrate back to their old DCs to get their regular dailies and other chores done. There was no expectation that the community seeds would germinate and grow, and beyond the fancy-pants gil bonus payout for certain conditions and better housing lotteries, no effort was made to distinguish the DC from any other to keep butts in seats, and so no one is interested in staying put. WHOOPS.

So this dramatic overestimation, where did it come from? I can only attribute it to Endwalker's release and the HUGE, MAJOR, problems with player queues that people experienced for the first 1-3 months with small thanks to the online MMO gold rush. Now put yourself in SE's clown shoes: You're an engineer, perhaps, and you see servers going down left and right during this period, what would you advise? The obvious solution is to add more servers. Other questions might also arise: should we build a new DC? What are the upper and lower metric limits of whatever we're keeping track of? You don't know for sure if this dramatic population influx as a result of EW's release is here to stay, so you have to make the decision with the data you know. What we see in the real world is that we got an Oceania data center and we got a new NA data center. We, as engineers, are satisfied because at the very least we can accommodate traffic, but the SE beancounters might be concerned because they can see trends like new accounts, resubs, cancellations, etc. They may sound a few alarms to bring those original engineers back to evaluate how to fix a broken DC that might be perceived as a failure. If the players are lucky.

Fixing the broken DCs is not the solution. I've harped on this and I've harped on this, but they need to figure out different, new ways to make the actual game more engaging for the modern gamer, to KEEP those butts in the seats. In my opinion, the people who joined during the Endwalker gold rush worked through the current formula (which was already showing its age) and got bored at some point along the way, or they saw what the community was doing and noped the f out. Like it or not, this is the situation, and argue with me all you want, but honestly you should look at those people who left and ask 'why did they leave' so you can maybe discover the root cause of why they left and maybe try to help solve the problem. Is it because this game sucks and is boring? Or are there other factors in play like shitty UI, bad social economics, extremely bad mod policy, godawful and memable graphics, shitty community, and so on. Taking all of this stuff into account might show to some why new data centers and communities within this ecosystem will continue to fail. You can't make a new DC if the playerbase isn't there, it will die on the vine.

[Themarvin]

I think SE dramatically overestimated how popular the new DC was going to be. Even when asking players to move for housing and a 1m bonus, the fact that DC travel was possible led players to migrate back to their old DCs to get their regular dailies and other chores done. There was no expectation that the community seeds would germinate and grow, and beyond the fancy-pants gil bonus payout for certain conditions and better housing lotteries, no effort was made to distinguish the DC from any other to keep butts in seats, and so no one is interested in staying put. WHOOPS.

So this dramatic overestimation, where did it come from? I can only attribute it to Endwalker's release and the HUGE, MAJOR, problems with player queues that people experienced for the first 1-3 months with small thanks to the online MMO gold rush. Now put yourself in SE's clown shoes: You're an engineer, perhaps, and you see servers going down left and right during this period, what would you advise? The obvious solution is to add more servers. Other questions might also arise: should we build a new DC? What are the upper and lower metric limits of whatever we're keeping track of? You don't know for sure if this dramatic population influx as a result of EW's release is here to stay, so you have to make the decision with the data you know. What we see in the real world is that we got an Oceania data center and we got a new NA data center. We, as engineers, are satisfied because at the very least we can accommodate traffic, but the SE beancounters might be concerned because they can see trends like new accounts, resubs, cancellations, etc. They may sound a few alarms to bring those original engineers back to evaluate how to fix a broken DC that might be perceived as a failure. If the players are lucky.

Fixing the broken DCs is not the solution. I've harped on this and I've harped on this, but they need to figure out different, new ways to make the actual game more engaging for the modern gamer, to KEEP those butts in the seats. In my opinion, the people who joined during the Endwalker gold rush worked through the current formula (which was already showing its age) and got bored at some point along the way, or they saw what the community was doing and noped the f out. Like it or not, this is the situation, and argue with me all you want, but honestly you should look at those people who left and ask 'why did they leave' so you can maybe discover the root cause..............

I don't think they over thought it, there is alot new stuff coming and soon enough 7.0 will go live... it will lighten up.

[Myrany]

But the 4 new worlds on Dynamis, share their dungeon queues, with 4 worlds, it shouldn't take this long. I'll think twice about creating a new toon on a new world next time I create one.

A couple weeks ago on Dynamis during primetime I waited for over 3 hours for Crystal Tower (for MSQ) before I gave up and traveled to Jenova where the queue popped in 15 minutes.

I believe DYnamis will improve in time but right now for Alliance raids and some trials it is just painful.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

Dynamis' problem is that no one who moved to it for housing stayed for content. So people who started there and don't really understand DC travel get shafted. I still think DC travel was a mistake, for a multitude of reasons.