How to Restore Confidence in FFXIV

[VelKallor]

Because their 'majority' is meant to be a convenient cudgel used to silence dissenters, and nothing more

No one has silenced any dissent, in any way shape or form. What you refuse to acknowledge is the simple fact that this forum is a tiny band of malcontents.."but muh majoriteh"..do the math, mate. Maybe 100 posters here vs the millions that dont post here, and who are ingame enjoying themselves.

Sorry to be the one to burst your bubble, but its the flat truth. The fact that less than two days ago someone posted a thread on how they enjoyed the game, and a lot of you piled on to shout THEM down..so who is silencing whom?

That one thread was a graphic example of just how negative this place is.

Your sneering memes etc impress no one, your bitterly cynical attitude speaks for itself. The fact that you actually told me you suspected I was being paid for posting here..then backtracked hard with your "But I didnt actually think that" was proof enough.

If you didnt think that to start with ( btw you never did answer me on this ) why did you say it?

"Hes a white knight..hes a SE shill.." "He is being paid to post here"

Sounds to me like you were the one trying to silence others.

[Kickwars]

That one thread was a graphic example of just how negative this place is.
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[Source, proof, and citation needed]

[Stormpeaks]

No one has silenced any dissent, in any way shape or form. What you refuse to acknowledge is the simple fact that this forum is a tiny band of malcontents.."but muh majoriteh"..do the math, mate. Maybe 100 posters here vs the millions that dont post here, and who are ingame enjoying themselves.

Sorry to be the one to burst your bubble, but its the flat truth. The fact that less than two days ago someone posted a thread on how they enjoyed the game, and a lot of you piled on to shout THEM down..so who is silencing whom?

That one thread was a graphic example of just how negative this place is.

Your sneering memes etc impress no one, your bitterly cynical attitude speaks for itself. The fact that you actually told me you suspected I was being paid for posting here..then backtracked hard with your "But I didnt actually think that" was proof enough.

If you didnt think that to start with ( btw you never did answer me on this ) why did you say it?

"Hes a white knight..hes a SE shill.." "He is being paid to post here"

Sounds to me like you were the one trying to silence others.

I'm sorry I am afraid I dont see a graph, a source, a citation anywhere in your post, please post proof so we can be sure that anything you pretend to be true is true

Thank you very much.

[AwesomeJr44]

why did you say it?

I'm never going to answer this question, primarily because it's so obvious that you're really mad over it.

[BRVV]

but muh majoriteh"..do the math, mate

Argumentum ad Populum - Google it

[VelKallor]

Oh so you mean like that other BS meme "appeal to authority" etc..just another way of dismissing facts you dont like or dont want to acknowledge.

Its a nice handwave and little else.

[BRVV]

Oh so you mean like that other BS meme "appeal to authority" etc..just another way of dismissing facts you dont like or dont want to acknowledge.

Its a nice handwave and little else.

It's a logical fallacy. You are the one who handwaves everything he doesn't like. Are you doing a logical fallacies speedrun?

The "meme". Jesus dude, get your sh*t together. You already use "Burden of Proof" and "Argumentum ad Populum". Funny thing: You dismissing logical fallacies as "memes" is actually an "Appeal to Authority". You dismiss actual logical fallacies. Without any reasoning. You seem to be unable to construct or comment or counter any logical argument. You never add to a discussion. You just rage. Be better.

Edit: Gotta try that sometime. During a discussion just call the other side's argument a "meme". So incredibly stupid it has to be seen

[kpxmanifesto]

It's a logical fallacy. You are the one who handwaves everything he doesn't like. Are you doing a logical fallacies speedrun?

Ahah, homeboy was going for the Logical Fallacies Speedrun Any%. It's hilarious though, because he's accusing you of something that he's doing himself. It's funny stuff like this that has me coming back to read these threads.

[CelestiCer]

No one has silenced any dissent, in any way shape or form. What you refuse to acknowledge is the simple fact that this forum is a tiny band of malcontents.."but muh majoriteh"..do the math, mate. Maybe 100 posters here vs the millions that dont post here, and who are ingame enjoying themselves.

This is quite... " Unhinged "... or at least how you phrased your post.

No one refutes the Forum making up a smaller portion of the player-base. The minority/majority argument point does not " Erase " valid critique of concerning/passionate/disappointed players nor removes flaws or potential improvements of the game. Yoshi-P told us to go to the Forums and give us your Feedback. Remember, the silent leave first. Simple metaphor? Could complain about food at a restaurant or plenty will outright leave if it continues to deteriorate in what they could serve, especially vs what they served in the past. They'll still have players, but it's just worse. Praising everything, incl. the negatives? does nothing to improve it.

Beyond a handful of trolls/bashers, plenty post " cause they care ". You can sense a good sign in faith if the post is about discussing/tackling logical argument points vs sounding like an attempt to insult. If you proofread your post and it amounts to just an impolite tantrum? reconsider the reason for posting it in the 1st place, mhm.