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    Quote Originally Posted by VelKallor View Post
    Theodric: look at it this way: this small band of permanently angry and bitter malcontents in this forum dont represent more than a fraction of a fraction of one percent of ONE servers population..so in that aspect, there IS a huge majority that dont care for, dont share in and CERTAINLY dont listen to the constant whining we see here.

    Oh I saw that little gif above..and yes, mate, hate to tell you this....you ARE in the minority. If you took this lot's attitude to heart, you'd think that the game is on its last legs, dying, owing to the "lack of vision" or the "inability to listen to feedback" and "people are leaving in droves". No.

    Note here on Aveyond's "ideas"..has anyone else ever noticed the missing word from his screeds...the words "I could be wrong?" When someone isnt prepared to accept that they arent speaking ex cathedra, when they arent ready...or willing....to admit error, thats an indication one should be rightly skeptical of such "pronouncements". People put way too much faith into oracles.
    I think I'm beginning to grow quite weary of you, and I just started here. So many of your accusations and insinuations detail character faults that you yourself exhibit, front and center. I haven't seen much of Aveyond's storied history, from what I've been told but I have seen you and a few others consistently appear to be no better. Why can none of you actually detail this majority you love to quote? Give examples? You can't just point to players playing the game, you have no clue at all what they're actually doing in game, what they enjoy in game, indeed if they even truly enjoy it at all. This dearth of majority claims is quite hypocritical in my own humble opinion, since it directly contrasts the constant insinuations of ex cathedra.

    The ones showcasing sources and citing their claims are the critics from what I've witnessed, all the defense has is pointless and empty blather and bloviation. But if nothing else, at least certain other posters can claim to be polite about it all.

    Quote Originally Posted by VelKallor View Post
    [ Source, proof and citation required ]

    Honestly, no offence, but how the hell do you know whats going on across all datacentres?
    Because posts to this effect show up on Reddit and Twitter with startlingly increasing frequency of late? Seriously, I don't even use social media and yet I've seen and heard of these occurrences.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TowaIsBestGirl View Post
    Why can none of you actually detail this majority you love to quote? Give examples?
    Because their 'majority' is meant to be a convenient cudgel used to silence dissenters, and nothing more. That's why the only response I usually give to people like Striker who repeat that same tired line ad nauseam is to laugh at them. It's funny and sad at the same time, although it's been leaning towards the latter more and more as time goes on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AwesomeJr44 View Post
    Because their 'majority' is meant to be a convenient cudgel used to silence dissenters, and nothing more. That's why the only response I usually give to people like Striker who repeat that same tired line ad nauseam is to laugh at them. It's funny and sad at the same time, although it's been leaning towards the latter more and more as time goes on.
    It's also a argumentum ad Populum
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    Quote Originally Posted by AwesomeJr44 View Post
    Because their 'majority' is meant to be a convenient cudgel used to silence dissenters, and nothing more. That's why the only response I usually give to people like Striker who repeat that same tired line ad nauseam is to laugh at them. It's funny and sad at the same time, although it's been leaning towards the latter more and more as time goes on.
    I try my best to be a little more polite than that, I may just ignore them from now on to be quite honest. It's the best outcome for all, I should think.
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    Because their 'majority' is meant to be a convenient cudgel used to silence dissenters, and nothing more
    No one has silenced any dissent, in any way shape or form. What you refuse to acknowledge is the simple fact that this forum is a tiny band of malcontents.."but muh majoriteh"..do the math, mate. Maybe 100 posters here vs the millions that dont post here, and who are ingame enjoying themselves.

    Sorry to be the one to burst your bubble, but its the flat truth. The fact that less than two days ago someone posted a thread on how they enjoyed the game, and a lot of you piled on to shout THEM down..so who is silencing whom?

    That one thread was a graphic example of just how negative this place is.

    Your sneering memes etc impress no one, your bitterly cynical attitude speaks for itself. The fact that you actually told me you suspected I was being paid for posting here..then backtracked hard with your "But I didnt actually think that" was proof enough.

    If you didnt think that to start with ( btw you never did answer me on this ) why did you say it?

    "Hes a white knight..hes a SE shill.." "He is being paid to post here"

    Sounds to me like you were the one trying to silence others.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VelKallor View Post
    That one thread was a graphic example of just how negative this place is.
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    [Source, proof, and citation needed]
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    Quote Originally Posted by VelKallor View Post
    No one has silenced any dissent, in any way shape or form. What you refuse to acknowledge is the simple fact that this forum is a tiny band of malcontents.."but muh majoriteh"..do the math, mate. Maybe 100 posters here vs the millions that dont post here, and who are ingame enjoying themselves.

    Sorry to be the one to burst your bubble, but its the flat truth. The fact that less than two days ago someone posted a thread on how they enjoyed the game, and a lot of you piled on to shout THEM down..so who is silencing whom?

    That one thread was a graphic example of just how negative this place is.

    Your sneering memes etc impress no one, your bitterly cynical attitude speaks for itself. The fact that you actually told me you suspected I was being paid for posting here..then backtracked hard with your "But I didnt actually think that" was proof enough.

    If you didnt think that to start with ( btw you never did answer me on this ) why did you say it?

    "Hes a white knight..hes a SE shill.." "He is being paid to post here"

    Sounds to me like you were the one trying to silence others.
    I'm sorry I am afraid I dont see a graph, a source, a citation anywhere in your post, please post proof so we can be sure that anything you pretend to be true is true

    Thank you very much.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VelKallor View Post
    why did you say it?
    I'm never going to answer this question, primarily because it's so obvious that you're really mad over it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VelKallor View Post
    but muh majoriteh"..do the math, mate
    Argumentum ad Populum - Google it
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    Will put you on ignore if you can't form a logical argument but argue nonetheless

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    Oh so you mean like that other BS meme "appeal to authority" etc..just another way of dismissing facts you dont like or dont want to acknowledge.

    Its a nice handwave and little else.
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