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    Quote Originally Posted by aveyond-dreams View Post
    There is definitely a problem with how feedback is being passed on or interpreted. It would be of great assistance if we had more active representatives on the forums, but the only time in recent memory that I have seen them make an appearance was regarding the outrage over Hrothgar haircuts. Even then, it was more to attempt to assuage them rather than acknowledge something had gone wrong.

    Things just are not ok right now. Though if that isn't clear now, I suppose it will never be.

    there is zero community reps to talk and HEAR us.We fall on deaf ears.
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    If they want to restore confidence first of all make our jobs more exciting and unique again not brain dead with no identity. Give better rewards for criterion dungeons/end game content. Better gear progression. Better end game content, looking at you Island Sanctuary.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stormpeaks View Post
    Tell us you dont play other MMO's without telling us you dont play other MMO's, there is no "crawling back" after people go over to other MMO's, people stay there, in the absolute best case scenario they play both, that's what happened with the massive wow exodus, they all tried FFXIV and made the population explode, then they crawled back to WoW, if you think people crawl back to FFXIV after trying other MMO's, you are delusional, not everyone wants free handout relics and an absolute bare expansion with barely any content to do at all
    Played other MMO's they all got flaws... the op whines too much.
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  4. #54
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zsavooz View Post
    there is zero community reps to talk and HEAR us.We fall on deaf ears.
    But apparently there's enough budget to hire people dedicated to "Influencer Relations" as they're advertising on twitter now for SE.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aveyond-dreams View Post
    But apparently there's enough budget to hire people dedicated to "Influencer Relations" as they're advertising on twitter now for SE.
    and what is your point? its their money, we gave them a fair portion of it and they can decide where they want to spend it. in game which you complain about, on advertisements which you complain about, on "community things" which again you complain about

    for all your complaining, why ARE you giving them money? "love of the game" wears pretty thin when you have complained for several expansions now.

    if you are paying them so you can express your displeasure.. I gotta tell you, you have some really messed up priorities.... (not to mention a bit hypocritical)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kes13a View Post
    you have complained for several expansions now.
    Thank you for allowing me the opportunity to correct you.

    During previous expansions as you can see from my forum join date I was obviously not active on this website. Naturally I was annoyed at the restrictions when Pagos released and the Shadowbringers content drought wasn't fun but by and large there were often multiple things I could look forward to.

    Now, here we are in an expansion where I have to tolerate people who deliberately mislead others and misrepresent me when they, doubtless, would have little to no issue if the changes I long for came to pass with official sanction.
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    Last edited by aveyond-dreams; 05-04-2023 at 07:20 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Themarvin View Post
    the op whines too much.
    Ironically, the people whining about the whiners whine more than the whiners.

    Quote Originally Posted by aveyond-dreams View Post
    Now, here we are in an expansion where I have to tolerate people who deliberately mislead others and misrepresent me when they, doubtless, would have little to no issue if the changes I long for came to pass with official sanction.
    Some of the people here definitely fit into this category. If Yoshi P put his stamp of approval on your 6.x patch rewrite (for example), it would be praised as a masterclass in writing for no other reason than Yoshi endorsing it. Some may scoff at that idea, but we all know they would.
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    Last edited by AwesomeJr44; 05-04-2023 at 07:31 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aveyond-dreams View Post
    Now, here we are in an expansion where I have to tolerate people who deliberately mislead others and misrepresent me when they, doubtless, would have little to no issue if the changes I long for came to pass with official sanction.
    This is the worst part. If they released a bunch of new exciting content and the plot line kept you on your toes they would be jumping up and down. But hey, they also have to come to the forums to shut down and tell the players asking for this stuff to quit and play other games.

    And if they manage to kill the game and it finally dies I guess they'll just shrug and wondered what went wrong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ath192 View Post
    This is the worst part. If they released a bunch of new exciting content and the plot line kept you on your toes they would be jumping up and down. But hey, they also have to come to the forums to shut down and tell the players asking for this stuff to quit and play other games.

    And if they manage to kill the game and it finally dies I guess they'll just shrug and wondered what went wrong.
    And thus FFXIV lands itself in the same place as WoW in Shadowlands.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aveyond-dreams View Post
    And thus FFXIV lands itself in the same place as WoW in Shadowlands.
    Alright lets actual humor this opinion of yours. If it actually turned out that EW was just a bad expansion.....why do you honestly believe that one single expansion is enough to make this game be irredeemable where it will just completely die. Games have their highs and lo's and they're still surprisingly doing good.

    So why the constant doomsaying as if you're some prophet? Oh wait I know what you're gonna say to this one "because we've seen this happen before in WoW yadayeeda"

    Yeah we'll guess what, that game is still actually alive even after all of its mess. So who's to say that FFXIV isnt capable of still being good?

    Also no, the ideas that you constantly post here isnt to be taken as failproof. None of us have any experience in actually running an MMO, especially one as popular as this game. We provide feedback, say when shit works or sucks and sometimes even outrage over it in social media and you know what, thats fine. But when you start having the delusion that you somehow know better than literally anyone on the community or even the team....thats not criticism buddy, that egoism. And we dont need egotistical people like you, we need people like R401 or even Stormpeak who can voice their criticisms without acting like complete total snobs.
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    Last edited by Atelier-Bagur; 05-04-2023 at 08:03 AM.

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