How to Restore Confidence in FFXIV

[aveyond-dreams]

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Yes to all of these things.

[SieyaM]

Here are some of the things that can be done to begin restoring my confidence in the game:



The side content for 6.x has quite frankly been a dumpster fire. Island Sweatshop is dead, Criterion was DOA, Orthos is just a copy pasted PotD/HoH, and there is no sustainable content to keep people around. Where is the replacement for Bozja? I'm not even talking about a new exploratory zone, but where is the thing that is meant to fill that void? We're more than halfway through the patches and it's nowhere to be found. Something needs to fill the void left by the missing exploratory zone.

People spent all last expansion complaining about the lack of a deep dungeon, so now we have one and people are complaining that it's another deep dungeon.

[Absimiliard]

People spent all last expansion complaining about the lack of a deep dungeon, so now we have one and people are complaining that it's another deep dungeon.

Nah. Most people were pretty happy with the inclusion of a new Deep Dungeon. Unfortunately, it turned out to be something you could faceroll. Kinda stunted its longevity a bit there.

[aveyond-dreams]

People spent all last expansion complaining about the lack of a deep dungeon, so now we have one and people are complaining that it's another deep dungeon.

I'm someone who thoroughly enjoyed both Palace of the Dead and Heaven on High as deep dungeons when they released but I absolutely loathe anything and everything to do with Eureka Orthos. My reasons are as follows.

For one, nobody wanted to see yet more hideous allagan textures copypasted everywhere.

The majority of the playerbase despises Hermes yet a certain writer decided to one again take the opportunity to gush over him in this deep dungeon's writing.

The weapons are the worst ones yet.

The hairstyle reward is one that at best only appeals to players on the fringes and isn't something I've seen anyone use.

The mount is yet another recycled mob and another with more ugly allagan textures painted on it.

From what I understand new enemies roam around the levelling floors that can one-shot and then wipe whole parties, making this content useless as a less painful way of levelling alt classes.

If we had gotten a deep dungeon on the moon, Garlemald, or even Lea Monde with better rewards I probably would be playing it right now instead of posting on the forums. Instead here we are.

[SieyaM]

I'm someone who thoroughly enjoyed both Palace of the Dead and Heaven on High as deep dungeons when they released but I absolutely loathe anything and everything to do with Eureka Orthos. My reasons are as follows.

For one, nobody wanted to see yet more hideous allagan textures copypasted everywhere.

The majority of the playerbase despises Hermes yet a certain writer decided to one again take the opportunity to gush over him in this deep dungeon's writing.

The weapons are the worst ones yet.

The hairstyle reward is one that at best only appeals to players on the fringes and isn't something I've seen anyone use.

The mount is yet another recycled mob and another with more ugly allagan textures painted on it.

From what I understand new enemies roam around the levelling floors that can one-shot and then wipe whole parties, making this content useless as a less painful way of levelling alt classes.

If we had gotten a deep dungeon on the moon, Garlemald, or even Lea Monde with better rewards I probably would be playing it right now instead of posting on the forums. Instead here we are.

A lot of these seem to be personal complaints about the fact that the aesthetic of the dungeon doesn't suit you, as well as the weapon. I haven't seen hardly anyone with Ultimate weapons but that doesn't mean the content is dead and shouldn't have been developed, but that is considered more of an elitist thing to have so I guess it excuses it's rarity. Of all the complaints around here I don't remember a huge wave of them being about Hermes, but maybe the social circles you're in hates them so it seems that way.

[aveyond-dreams]

A lot of these seem to be personal complaints about the fact that the aesthetic of the dungeon doesn't suit you, as well as the weapon. I haven't seen hardly anyone with Ultimate weapons but that doesn't mean the content is dead and shouldn't have been developed, but that is considered more of an elitist thing to have so I guess it excuses it's rarity. Of all the complaints around here I don't remember a huge wave of them being about Hermes, but maybe the social circles you're in hates them so it seems that way.

Indeed. The weapon looks like garbage and so did the area the content takes place in so I refused to engage in it. Allagan aesthetics are widely regarded as ugly if not painful to look at so asking me to tolerate even more of it after 10 years was quite frankly unacceptable.

I highly recommend you look into some of the criticisms, mostly valid, levied at Hermes. I do not care for the attempt at elucidating on the meaning of life/depression via that character, who ended up being even more widely despised than originally anticipated as per a post-EW launch interview. His inclusion in the story actively worsened it and I've made the decision for myself that after such wildly out of touch commentary through Hermes by that writer, I am no longer willing to play storylines written by her.

Any trust from the DRK storyline and Shadowbringers was torn to shreds by the 6.0 MSQ.

Hiroi, who is supposed to take charge for 7.0's MSQ, must restore the status quo and preferably not take out half the universe like what happened in Endwalker. Better handling of themes, better handling of characters, and above all - some deeper thinking and reflection that could have saved Endwalker's story from hitting all the wrong notes with people.

[VelKallor]

I think it’s time we break from some of the negativity

Thatd be a first for you

the overarching consensus....

..amongst this tiny band of malcontents that are never happy...

is that there is little point in engaging with such content.

For you. Then again nothing in this game seems to meets your lofty "standards"

The lack of an exploratory zone has been felt especially painfully

In your opinion

which at this point I cannot voice support for

Speaking ex cathedra, are we?

The best solution I can propose is to introduce the first exploratory zone by no later than 7.25, coupled with a Restoration effort that begins in 7.15

Restoration...where? The tone of your posts makes you sound like you think you are a supervisor in the dev team...its kinda hilarious

, I also believe a Deep Dungeon

You just got one. Finished with it already?

[AwesomeJr44]

amongst this tiny band of malcontents that are never happy...

Guys, it's finally self aware...

Wait no ethers are for restoring MP not confidence

Well not with that attitude they're not.

[DixieBellOCE]

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Hey look the hypocrite is back.

its been 8 weeks since 6.35 release, you are NOT ALLOWED TO DO THE CONTENT GUYS You have to play the game at 0.01x speed or your playing too much and you should go play something else.

[aveyond-dreams]

You have to play the game at 0.01x speed or your playing too much and you should go play something else.

That seems to be what an increasingly smaller minority of players continues suggesting time and time again whenever people bring up the longevity of content this expansion. Thankfully as time has gone on more people have opened their eyes to the obvious truth of the matter.

I look forward to whenever the influencers for this game run out of material to cover and are thus once again compelled to return to my threads in search of video material. If they actually cared about this game they would be taking an active role in discussing and finding solutions to its issues rather than making 10 minute furniture videos, anyway.