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  1. #41
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    Avatar von DixieBellOCE
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    Dixie Bell
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    Ravana
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    Tänzer Lv 100
    Zitat Zitat von Stormpeaks Beitrag anzeigen
    And yet those people will always tell you that there is "endless content" and that you just chose not to do it, yet they themselves arent doing the content, so obviously there is always more lmao, duh, if you ignore it entirely then of course there is content to do because you literally are not doing it and are ignoring it
    Of course their is endless content when they don't play the game.
    The content is on the forums telling other people how to play the game.
    (6)

  2. #42
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    Avatar von Iyrnthota
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    Iyrnthota Sparrow
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    Krieger Lv 100
    Zitat Zitat von VelKallor Beitrag anzeigen
    Aside from marketing FF 16 is finished. You were saying??
    Fwiw, the way the timelines line up (and if wiki is mildly reliable), FF16 development would have been going on from about pre-StB to mid EW.

    If anything, YoshiP has probably had significantly more time to dedicate to FF14 as of late, bar the marketing tours.
    (1)

  3. #43
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    Avatar von Jeeqbit
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    Oscarlet Oirellain
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    Jenova
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    Krieger Lv 100
    Zitat Zitat von Cortawraith Beitrag anzeigen
    I just wonder IF it continues the story from the Shb Relic-zones, since its story was said to be continued in the ending screen ^^
    If you collected the field records, they actually spoil the ending completely and say what happens far into the future.
    (2)
    In other news, there is no technical debt from 1.0.
    "We don't have ... a technological issue that was carried over from 1.0, because ARR was meant to kind of discard what we had from 1.0 and rebuild it from the engine."
    https://youtu.be/ge32wNPaJKk?t=560

    Zitat Zitat von Jeeqbit Beitrag anzeigen
    Want to know why new content will never last more than 20 minutes? Full breakdown:

  4. #44
    Player Avatar von R041
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    Oidi Grey
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    Marilith
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    Weiser Lv 90
    Zitat Zitat von Stormpeaks Beitrag anzeigen
    The funniest thing is that in every thread like this, there's 2 kind of people

    One is the absolute, snail paced player, that hasnt touched ANYTHING current content or barely anything, yet they have been playing for years or have started recently, but they know that there is such a minuscule amount of content that they keep recycling the content over and over again, to delay reaching the "endgame" as much as possible, those people also barely play the game in general and would rather play other games, they will also keep telling you "yeah i havent reached IS" "yeah I havent reached variant dungeons" "Yeah I havent reached deep dungeons" showing literally everyone that they barely play the game at all, and that they are slowing consuming the content on purpose. Those people will also keep telling you (convincing themselves) that the game has endless content, and that you are the problem because you actually do play the game, and that you dont want to do the content that you already have done a bazillion times in the past.
    These are the players that are just sometimes licking the popsicle stick that melted 6 years ago, telling us how delicious it is.

    I'm sure the strawberry flavor is somewhere in that piece of wood if you keep licking it hard enough..
    (8)

  5. #45
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    Avatar von TomsYoungerBro
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    Tim Brady
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    Jenova
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    Dunkelritter Lv 100
    Zitat Zitat von ZephyrMenodora Beitrag anzeigen
    I’m thrilled. I like roulettes but disliked grinding boring things like fates. I never got very far in older relics given how dull the grind was.
    Dang, it was almost like the relic content wasn't made for you? Which is fine! They just shouldn't take your advice and instead look to those who enjoy that content for improvements .


    Zitat Zitat von Slayer25c Beitrag anzeigen
    We did this for the first and second relic we was perfectly fine with It we don't need a relic zone.

    See this is crazy, because if I go to the 2.45 relic step in ARR I don't see a tome grind step...Is the wiki bugged or?
    (9)

  6. #46
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    Avatar von Avoidy
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    Chadhadai Oronir
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    Balmung
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    Ninja Lv 83
    At this point, I feel like BLU is stuck carrying a lot of 6.4's weight. And I don't even like BLU all that much, but it's the only thing I see lots of people looking genuinely thrilled about. The relic is stale. The dungeon is recolored glams going off of the special site's update. Savage exists, can't wait for the raiders on my friends list to log in once a week for reclears if they don't all burn out and quit before they reach that point. Variant 2.0 has room to succeed, but the devs will find a way to cockblock it.

    I don't know, man. If I were Square, I'd be opening like 10 new wards just to lock people in because if you don't care about reclears then 6.4 is gonna have you asking why you're even subbed after like, the second week? And these updates are meant to sit for ~4+ months? Hope I'm wrong tbh
    (7)
    Geändert von Avoidy (03.05.23 um 01:29 Uhr)
    Zitat Zitat von Shialan Beitrag anzeigen
    I don't get it. Do you really have nothing better to do with your life than creating shitpost after shitpost?
    Zitat Zitat von Sir_Tonberry Beitrag anzeigen
    Genshin Impact a free to play mobile gatcha game puts out events every 40 days that are fully voiced and an engaging story. FF which is a subscription game with a full price tag does like 5 events a year and still can't put 10% of the effort. Something is wrong.
    Zitat Zitat von Yoshida-san
    Let's consider another theoretical mod: one that displays your character entirely naked.

  7. #47
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    Avatar von Jojoya
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    Jojoya Joya
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    Coeurl
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    Barde Lv 100
    Zitat Zitat von SieyaM Beitrag anzeigen
    Why does everyone seem to feel that new zones for relics is the standard now, its been in only 2 of the 5 relics we have available to us now.
    Some players enjoyed getting the new content. Can't blame them for that.

    What I wonder is how things look from SE's end. Did participation in relic grinds reduce when they were related to the exploratory zones and that's why they're trying out this method for Endwalker? I know I didn't enjoy Eureka at all so never touched the Stormblood relic. I started on the Shadowbringers relic, decided I didn't like Bozja and left the relic unfinished because I don't enjoy Alliance raids/Deep Dungeon either. If SE had allowed us to keep farming memories in FATEs, dungeons, normal raids, roulettes, etc. I probably would have finished it.

    This expansion I get to do my choice of content so I'm back to working on a relic again. If in 6.5, they decide it can only be completed doing a specific type of content and I don't enjoy that content, it will end up another unfinished relic.

    Zitat Zitat von R041 Beitrag anzeigen
    These are the players that are just sometimes licking the popsicle stick that melted 6 years ago, telling us how delicious it is.

    I'm sure the strawberry flavor is somewhere in that piece of wood if you keep licking it hard enough..
    I find that a silly analogy.

    People have things they like. People have things they don't like. The things they like don't necessarily get stale with time.

    Do you not have favorite things from childhood that you still like to do or eat/drink? Aren't there things introduced in recent years that you've tried but decide you don't like? (Or I don't know, you might be young enough that they're all still one and the same.)

    Not every player was around when the old content was first released and so haven't done it repeatedly for months on end. It's still interesting to them.

    I don't blame people who enjoyed the exploratory zones for being disappointed that there wasn't a new one this expansion. You still have the option of doing other new content added this expansion to get the tomestones for the relic, though. If you don't like any of that, you have the option of doing the content you enjoyed in the past to get them.

    Or you could skip doing the relic because it's just another shiny weapon in a long line of shiny weapons that don't mean much of anything by the time you get them completed. Spend your time back in Eureka and Bozja/Zadnor if that was the content that you really loved to show SE that there's still interest in more exploratory zones.
    (3)
    Geändert von Jojoya (03.05.23 um 01:59 Uhr)

  8. #48
    Player Avatar von R041
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    Oidi Grey
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    Marilith
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    Weiser Lv 90
    Zitat Zitat von Jojoya Beitrag anzeigen
    People have things they like. People have things they don't like. The things they like don't necessarily get stale with time.
    I'm not even necessarily talking about Relic. I'm talking about all old content. The sync is a joke, and the Jobs are getting stretched thin. So the experience we had from when that content released to now is completely different, and often-times extremely washed out.

    You basically always have to force limit yourself or you skip half mechanics of almost all content pre-current expac. It's why I said it's like licking an old popsicle stick. I guess the taste is in there somewhere, stained in the wood.
    (8)

  9. #49
    Player Avatar von Kuroka
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    Ulala Ula
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    Shiva
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    Schnitter Lv 90
    Zitat Zitat von Stormpeaks Beitrag anzeigen
    The funniest thing is that in every thread like this, there's 2 kind of people

    One is the absolute, snail paced player, that hasnt touched ANYTHING current content or barely anything, yet they have been playing for years or have started recently, but they know that there is such a minuscule amount of content that they keep recycling the content over and over again, to delay reaching the "endgame" as much as possible, those people also barely play the game in general and would rather play other games, they will also keep telling you "yeah i havent reached IS" "yeah I havent reached variant dungeons" "Yeah I havent reached deep dungeons" showing literally everyone that they barely play the game at all, and that they are slowing consuming the content on purpose. Those people will also keep telling you (convincing themselves) that the game has endless content, and that you are the problem because you actually do play the game, and that you dont want to do the content that you already have done a bazillion times in the past.

    Then there's the other type of player, that would absolutely love to have this game as their main game, would like more decent content to keep busy, on top of hanging out with friends of course, and those people will fight to get more content to the game, but the first group of people will always fight back saying "there's enough content in the game as it is !!!" as they themselves are barely playing the game, and slowing down on purpose to not consume the content too fast, and take in mind, even though they barely play, they still have to go slow to not consume the content too fast and then run out of content, that in itself speaks volume about how much content there is in this game.
    This is so true. Also some dont get that "craft 50000000000 collectables" just doesn't do it for some people. Just like others dont do a trial 99x to buy the mount after like half an year...

    It really feels like the middle ground is breaking away and all thats left is "grind 2565438685,74 hours" or "pass 1500 tome"...
    (1)

  10. #50
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    Avatar von Mcg55ss
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    Sirk Raven
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    Maduin
    Main Class
    Revolverklinge Lv 93
    Zitat Zitat von TowaIsBestGirl Beitrag anzeigen
    Could just avoid them.

    Not when this is like the 6th one I have seen today nah probably couldn't
    (1)

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