Relic News - 6.45

[Stormpeaks]

The words of a person who can't comprehend when someone does not agree with them. I see / hear those all the time. I also pay for Switch Online and barely even use my Switch.

The point is that whenever I want to play them, I can simply do so without hassle. Not taking ages to do a relic here, means I can play whatever game I want on my free time, rather than only this one.

So you are literally saying that you'd rather play other games than invest time in this game

alright then lmao, the funniest thing is that yall arent even ashamed or anything of what you write, you literally want to invest absolutely 0 time in the game and would rather play other games, and yet the game should be catered to you refusing to play the game and to invest time in it

absolute comedy, you just want a free handout, at least be honest with yourself, you think you are "entitled" to it, even if you dont do anything in the game at all, you somehow are entitled to it because reasons

[Aword3213]

What matters to you with relics more: how they look or how grindy they are?

How they look

I know some did parody people wanting it for no work, but I have no qualms getting it for free.

Shiny new weapon for glamour and it's free? count me in.

[Xirean]

So you are literally saying that you'd rather play other games than invest time in this game

alright then lmao, the funniest thing is that yall arent even ashamed or anything of what you write, you literally want to invest absolutely 0 time in the game and would rather play other games, and yet the game should be catered to you refusing to play the game and to invest time in it

absolute comedy, you just want a free handout, at least be honest with yourself, you think you are "entitled" to it, even if you dont do anything in the game at all, you somehow are entitled to it because reasons

[magitekLuna]

Well. So much for "6.45's relic step will be the real grind!" congrats to those who'd rather farm tomestones instead of having actual relic content like Delubrum Reginae or Exploratory Zones that gave other rewards to grind for and things to do.

It's clear to me that those of us who wanted a more involved process are not simply not being listened to, but actively ignored.

Enjoy your Manderville Relics - if they can even be called relics at this point.

They are not relics just a free weapon you get .
This way to lame

[aveyond-dreams]

So you are literally saying that you'd rather play other games than invest time in this game

alright then lmao, the funniest thing is that yall arent even ashamed or anything of what you write, you literally want to invest absolutely 0 time in the game and would rather play other games, and yet the game should be catered to you refusing to play the game and to invest time in it

absolute comedy, you just want a free handout, at least be honest with yourself, you think you are "entitled" to it, even if you dont do anything in the game at all, you somehow are entitled to it because reasons

Speaking perfectly honestly I would rather this game cater to those of us who actually want to play it. Even if that means it's not as big without all the things done to bend to the whims of the crowd that wants to somehow remove more effort from this and other forms of content. They seriously picked the wrong people to try and cater to, I wanted a video game not a visual novel.

[SaltyDaddy]

True but lets be real. It was the ONLY lasting content in the entirety of Shallowbringers.

While Criteons are dead EVEN DURING ITS EXPANSION and Island Sancuary... Is 2 minute daily contnet.

It's also really hard to go back now and complete some of it alone.

Only things like Castrum and Dalriada to be honest. Which is fine to be honest. People forget, that this game is an MMORPG which wants you to socialize with other people. And as you can do both in 2, preferably in 4 people, I never had a problem getting them in PF or instance to do both when I felt like doing them.

Delubrum have 8 man runs in PF for relic all the time.

The rest of Bozja content is soloable pretty easily. The instance scalling is crazy and I miss doing 1 mil crits with assize back in ShB doing solo CE. Just dont be scared trying your lost actions. They give you massive damage boost, or surviability. And you can always use shout chat and somebody can help you. I would give it a go and maybe you even find more friends that way. I sure did.

But this is what I meant with these exploratory zones. They arent future proof and you heavily have to rely on a discord to being able to complete its endgame content. This is why I say Eureka and Bozja were failures

Dunno chief. Calling a content, that is run to this day pretty often (Dont know about NA DC, but we at EU run these pretty regullary. Savage Delubrum around twice a week too), still have plenty of rewards for people who dont have them, profitable for those doing them as a lot of stuff is sellable... a failure? Compared to Endwalker content? That seems weird to me.

Only thing I loved in Endwalker is, how they made PvP more casual-friendly and the pass system is amazing. Even tho i miss Feast, making it more fun for the whole audience was great idea. Also love they are bringing back the championship. But sadly, I just cant say more about the rest of the content.

[SaltyDaddy]

Also, for those who always accusse others of being a "complainers" and "spending time on forums too much"... They do, because they care about the game. They want to have a more reasons to stay in the game, but they dont, so they spend their sub time on the forums arguing with people, who thinks their opinion about how is the game doing great worth more, than any others (and vice versa).

So just listen to what you write. If you write to a complainer, who isnt happy, that the game is doing perfectly and you have still things to do... Why should they care about you. They dont. They have reasons why they are not happy with the game and want it better. They share their opinions and are scared about state of their favourite parts of the game... until they leave for good for not being listened to.

If you still enjoy the game and have no complaints.... Thats amazing! We are happy for you! Like, seriously. but thats not anti-argument to someone, who isnt enjoying themselfs that much.

"everything is perfect and you all are just complainers. You dont need more" - I will see many rolling eyes over what Im gonna say, but I heard same things back when our country had communism and we didnt even had rights to travel abroad, as "we didnt needed to". We didnt had many basic rights ofc, but thats not my current point. I know this is extreme to say, but it just gives me same vibes. I know that this is just a game, not goverment regime and I can leave the game any time I want... but I dont want to. I still love this game and is currently only MMORPG I can enjoy. Maybe it is because of me, but somehow, I expected more out of this expansion we hyped so much. So telling me to leave FF14 to me, feels same, as people back in the day telling me to leave my country I loved. I dont want to. I have people I care about in this game that I dont share other games with.

Do I take breaks? Yes. Do I play every day? No. but currently, my sub money doesnt really provide me with enough enjoyement. "Then unsub" - Cant, as sometimes I do content like BA/DRS/PvP events etc I want to participate in and its just not worth unsubbing with the hassle of mogstation. Also, I still care about my housing.

tl;dr: People complaining should be more chill, but on the other hand, people dissmissings their opinions/fears/feels are as bad as trolls and should be just ignored.

[TomsYoungerBro]

I also pay for Switch Online and barely even use my Switch.

This is what we call bad money management and is not the great counter point you think it is XD. You really shouldn't be paying for subscriptions you don't use. People do this all the time with things like Netflix, Amazon prime, game subs, etc. etc. It's your life to live and your money to spend, but it's not smart and shouldn't be used as an argument.

[4clubbedace]

And this is why I treat these things as a business relationship rather than an emotional one. The fact of the matter is we're getting less compared to what we used to - in terms of quality and quantity of things that are actually viable as content.

This relic is unacceptable and an utterly failed experiment. The people who are unironically in support of it or are even demanding the tome requirements be lessened further already had tome weapons they could obtain. There was no need to sacrifice the actual Relic for these people to give them something they were not interested in working towards.

Savage weapons are already better than relics before relics can catch up to that stage, and are better for 80% of the expansion, and are only better at the end with mariginal substat increase

relics never really mattered outside glam , and with how garbage and tedious it is to gear alt classes as is, thats all relics ever really needed to be, filler.

[Vahlnir]

Speaking perfectly honestly I would rather this game cater to those of us who actually want to play it

This is how I feel as well, though I know full well the reality of the situation.