Relic News - 6.45

[Atelier-Bagur]

It's also really hard to go back now and complete some of it alone.

Prolly depends on the DA or server you're on. I know on my end at Crystal I still see a few people running around to do the content. Although its almost always progression players. I do know that Savage DA is pretty much dead unless you go to a specific discord to do it.

But this is what I meant with these exploratory zones. They arent future proof and you heavily have to rely on a discord to being able to complete its endgame content. This is why I say Eureka and Bozja were failures despite its few good aspects and I still remember the days where people just hated doing Bozja and doing the Relic chain. Nobody ever at the time praised for the content so its highly amusing people here starting to fondly look back at it with those shiny rose-tinted glasses.

[Remish]

Prolly depends on the DA or server you're on. I know on my end at Crystal I still see a few people running around to do the content. Although its almost always progression players. I do know that Savage DA is pretty much dead unless you go to a specific discord to do it.

But this is what I meant with these exploratory zones. They arent future proof and you heavily have to rely on a discord to being able to complete its endgame content. This is why I say Eureka and Bozja were failures despite its few good aspects and I still remember the days where people just hated doing Bozja and doing the Relic chain. Nobody ever at the time praised for the content so its highly amusing people here starting to fondly look back at it with those shiny rose-tinted glasses.

Yeah, as anticlimactic as this relic is, depending on how the future patches handle the rest of it. This could be the most future proof ready relic we have had yet.

[angienessyo]

At least I can play FF16 while I have nothing to do in FF14. It's obviously all part of Yoshi P's plan.

[Ath192]

At least I can play FF16 while I have nothing to do in FF14. It's obviously all part of Yoshi P's plan.

yes, it is very plausible there is nothing to do so you go buy a PS5 and buy XVI in a couple of months from now. It releases June 22, a month after savage releases, and there is no grind afterwards to spend your time in. Coincidence? Maybe. But it is suspicious.

[Shougun]

I would definitely like to see relic future proofed. Straight to tomes seems to be jumping the shark but ending up at tomes... that seems future proofed which is good. Although to plug an idea I suggested before, I feel using the beast tribe's after sometime has past to act as future proof would be another idea. Each expansion's tribe being able to help with steps in the relic (rather than purely dumping it at the feet of tomes). The help they offer being whatever that step needs to be less painful / proof'd.

Some of the eureka stuff seems to be discord or never accomplish, which imo is a shame. Beast tribe token to spawn a instance with super echo, or just allowing blue mage in being something that might help. Besides ultimate I like the idea that with patience I have a pretty good chance to do all content at some point (which is what im usually refering to by a rolling mountain).

[Duskane]

Remember what was lost.

bit of an unfair comparison
we still have multiple hair styles(and they work on viera/hrothgar this time),sets,emotes,minions etc etc

Bozja was the only real content we got in Shadow bringer everything else was Crafter content,
while EW we got pvp rework,Island sanc,Criterion dungeon,Eureka Orthos and another ultimate so not like we really "lost" anything it was all just allocated elsewhere.

[Zanarkand-Ronso]

bit of an unfair comparison
we still have multiple hair styles(and they work on viera/hrothgar this time),sets,emotes,minions etc etc

Bozja was the only real content we got in Shadow bringer everything else was Crafter content,
while EW we got pvp rework,Island sanc,Criterion dungeon,Eureka Orthos and another ultimate so not like we really "lost" anything it was all just allocated elsewhere.

Very Level-Headed.
Just once again, its the issue of "Im not getting what I WANT", so its bad.
This Expansion was alot of Experimentation that will hopefully get better later. And of course they learn from 6.X and can just Improve in 7.X

[TowaIsBestGirl]

I feel like a lot of people's miracle solution silver bullet is "Just be patient and enjoy what you have, even if its bad now it'll get better when the team returns from FFXVI."

Have any of you considered what comes next if you're wrong? What if it doesn't miraculously return to the original status quo? What if we go down from here, rather than up? What words of consolation will you grace us with then?

[Zanarkand-Ronso]

I feel like a lot of people's miracle solution silver bullet is "Just be patient and enjoy what you have, even if its bad now it'll get better when the team returns from FFXVI."

Have any of you considered what comes next if you're wrong? What if it doesn't miraculously return to the original status quo? What if we go down from here, rather than up? What words of consolation will you grace us with then?

If I still enjoy the game, I will continue to play it, pay for it, and hang out with my friends in it.
If I dont like it, Ill share my Grievances and hope for changes. And if things don't get better, Ill move on...either via a break, or indefinitely depending how I feel about the situation at the time.

I love this game.
But Im not shackled to it.
Either Im having a good time, and Im playing it
Or Im not, and Ill leave.

[TowaIsBestGirl]

If I still enjoy the game, I will continue to play it, pay for it, and hang out with my friends in it.
If I dont like it, Ill share my Grievances and hope for changes. And if things don't get better, Ill move on...either via a break, or indefinitely depending how I feel about the situation at the time.

I love this game.
But Im not shackled to it.
Either Im having a good time, and Im playing it
Or Im not, and Ill leave.

While I'm not accusing you in particular of this, I often find that those who espouse such views as "Well of course I have hangups with and things I don't like about <insert game here>" rarely have anything critical to say or offer potential improvements to show for it or prove the veracity of their words. Something to keep in mind.

I sometimes think Yoshi-P didn't think his words of "taking a break" through when he said them, and those listening took it as gospel or one of the commandments rather than a recommendation. What of those who'd rather not take a break? It's far from a miraculous silver bullet to solve all issues. I feel like some here are less sympathetic to those who find themselves in that position than they ought to be, and what words they do offer tend to be platitudes.