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  1. #291
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xirean View Post
    Why is "quitting" put in the same box as "taking a break"? Also how is the issue of "having nothing to do" not solved by playing when there is a plethora of content that the individual has not yet done?
    That's becau- you know what, I'll follow what that au ra guy said. You can't reason with certain kind of people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deo14 View Post
    That's becau- you know what, I'll follow what that au ra guy said. You can't reason with certain kind of people.
    It really is better sometimes really, some people you just cant reason with, they will go as far lengths as to call the "10 000 desynths" achievement "content", or ocean fishing which is very niche, basically for them to accept (and even then they still wouldnt) that the game lacks content, you would need to have 100% in every single category, and even at that point they'll tell you that you can just roll an alt and do it all over again

    its plain stupidity really and just defending the company because they have this weird relationship with yoshi P and the game in general that makes them want to defend it at all cost, or just pure copium on their part because they know this game is not doing as well as they make it sound like it is
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  3. #293
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stormpeaks View Post
    It really is better sometimes really, some people you just cant reason with, they will go as far lengths as to call the "10 000 desynths" achievement "content", or ocean fishing which is very niche, basically for them to accept (and even then they still wouldnt) that the game lacks content, you would need to have 100% in every single category, and even at that point they'll tell you that you can just roll an alt and do it all over again

    its plain stupidity really and just defending the company because they have this weird relationship with yoshi P and the game in general that makes them want to defend it at all cost, or just pure copium on their part because they know this game is not doing as well as they make it sound like it is
    I've never made any such claims. Stop projecting. You can't know what stance someone holds unless you ask them and actually have a conversation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xirean View Post
    I've never made any such claims. Stop projecting. You can't know what stance someone holds unless you ask them and actually have a conversation.
    I wouldn't put too much thought on this person. I've only ever seen one instance where they showed normal human understanding. Otherwise it's like a bot, always repeating the same lines and ignoring any context. They are just a hate bot how I see it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xirean View Post
    I've never made any such claims. Stop projecting. You can't know what stance someone holds unless you ask them and actually have a conversation.
    So now you understand why it isn't productive for some individuals to try and paint me as someone who hates the game? Glad we had this talk.
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  6. #296
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thurmnmurmn View Post
    I wouldn't put too much thought on this person. I've only ever seen one instance where they showed normal human understanding. Otherwise it's like a bot, always repeating the same lines and ignoring any context. They are just a hate bot how I see it.
    beep boop beep boop buddy, me not agreeing with you and us not agreeing to something does not make me a hate bot
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  7. #297
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stormpeaks View Post
    beep boop beep boop buddy, me not agreeing with you and us not agreeing to something does not make me a hate bot
    Do you want to try agreeing on something? Do you actually want to talk; or do you just want to throw out the most extreme example and assign to anyone whom has a different conclusion than you? If you want to actually discuss the issue, then please let's have it.
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  8. #298
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stormpeaks View Post
    beep boop beep boop buddy, me not agreeing with you and us not agreeing to something does not make me a hate bot
    This is going to be my only response to you for now cuz as you say so often yourself, it's just not worth it.
    I never once said anything about us not agreeing with each other. As a matter of fact there are things we do agree on. My comment was on how you respond to people in here. Your responses are always personal insults or just silly 1 liners meant to just egg people on.
    You don't want to partake in an actual discussion, you just want to be a dick and to be "right" in any situation.
    This is entirely how I see your posts.
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  9. #299
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xirean View Post
    Why is "quitting" put in the same box as "taking a break"? Also how is the issue of "having nothing to do" not solved by playing when there is a plethora of content that the individual has not yet done?
    Because in the context in which it's so frequently recommended on this forum, from what I've seen so far at least, "taking a break" might as well be quitting. What guarantees does a player have that anything they actually enjoy will be added by the time they return? Only through sticking around and proffering your opinions and critique can such a thing be accomplished.

    The second part of your inquiry may work as a defense for newer sprouts and those who play at a glacial pace, but there are plenty of players who've been loyal subscribers for over a decade and have gradually done all that there is up till this point. What of those players who do all/most content when it's current? I'm sure it hasn't escaped you that they exist, but for the purposes of making my statement I've no choice but to say that these types of players are rather common.

    The issue is people treating the "take a break" advice as some sort of catch-all silver bullet that solves and excuses all issues players might have with the game and it's content as it is but that simply isn't the case, I'm afraid. I may very well be wrong about this, but based on my observations and lurking so far I would argue that the "take a break" argument is being offered as benign but instead it reads like "The game is fine, mostly because I personally enjoy it. There's nothing to critique and instead of clogging my space take your gripes and leave the forums with them."

    I can, of course, only speak for myself. However, that's what I've been witnessing occur.
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    Last edited by TowaIsBestGirl; 05-06-2023 at 01:19 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TowaIsBestGirl View Post
    Because in the context in which it's so frequently recommended on this forum, from what I've seen so far at least, "taking a break" might as well be quitting. What guarantees does a player have that anything they actually enjoy will be added by the time they return? Only through sticking around and proffering your opinions and critique can such a thing be accomplished.
    Paying for an MMO you don't enjoy is you wasting money. And the more you pay, the more SE thinks it's doing something right. If the game does not add anything you enjoy, then just don't resub. Hell, I quit ESO and stopped paying ESO Plus when they were adding the Greymoor expansion because I DESPISE Skyrim, and haven't really gone back since the stuff they have released has been pretty subpar (I watch my friend play from time to time, he's on the verge of quitting himself).
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